Meeting in Dakar re NPOC complaint

Sat Oct 29 13:18:22 CEST 2011

Thanks, Avri.

While it's not an obligation to do so, I am happy to volunteer an SOI to the
list based on the template - if that would be constructive and a welcome
thing to do in the circumstances. Or anyone who's interested can visit my
LinkedIn profile which I try to keep up to date:
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=1110917&trk=tab_pro

Maria

On 29 October 2011 11:09, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The SOI is a requirement for all those who participate in an of the Working
> Groups or the the g-council itself.  So the more people we have represented
> in the SOI directory, the better because it means lots of people are
> participating in the activities of ICANN.  Amber and Konstantinos filed one
> because it was required for their respective stints as temporary
> replacements for a g-councilor.  The paucity of NCSG members listed in the
> directory is a direct witness to how few of us participate in WGs.
>
> We do not, however, have a NCSG Charter requirement for filling out an SOI
> as a member of the SG. And I am not sure how well it work out for us to put
> SOIs for all of our members, and the members of organizational members, in
> the GNSO SOI list.
>
> But if the NCSG wanted to make filing an SOI a requirement, that would be
> interesting discussion. And I suppose the NCSG-EC could implement something
> specifically for the NCSG if they wished.  It would be relatively easy for
> someone to copy the template from the GNSO wiki space and start one in the
> NCSG wiki space.
>
> avri
>
>
> On 29 Oct 2011, at 04:12, Alain Berranger wrote:
>
> > Thanks Dan,
> >
> > I would add that a reasonable standard of transparency and participation
> would include all NCSG members' SOIs be submitted in the nearest future. It
> only takes a few minutes to complete. I notice that Amber and Konstantinos,
> our respective Chairs of NPOC and NCUC have completed their SOIs under the
> new format and we should all follow their lead. As many NPOC members have
> recently joined this discussion group, it would help us understand the web
> of relationships and degrees of separation in the  NCSG community and their
> two constituencies. For new comers, knowing who you are dealing with is
> essential.
> >
> > Cheers, Alain
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Dan Krimm <dan at musicunbound.com> wrote:
> > This is a big relief, very happy to hear it.
> >
> > I'd be even happier to see a post on-list by Amber that NPOC is happy
> with
> > this outcome.  Firsthand public reports are always the "gold standard"
> > here, and a very good habit to get into as a matter of course -- just a
> > friendly piece of advice about the collective culture here as a way to
> > offer a welcoming hand in good faith.
> >
> > 90% of success in life is simply showing up.  For those of us who are not
> > able to attend these events in person or even remotely in real time, this
> > list is where "showing up" has the broadest reach as well as the
> > tangibility and persistence of a written record.  It has real and
> > unduplicated meaning, and thus it makes a real difference.
> >
> > So please, take our hand here on-list, and don't be a stranger.  This
> > public forum is an ineliminable venue for bringing our community
> together,
> > and should not be discounted.  Regular presence here in good faith should
> > be factored into any commitment to participate in the SG, especially as a
> > leader/representative.  This is a fabulous opportunity for a fresh start,
> > and for looking forward.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > --
> > Any opinions expressed in this message are those of the author alone and
> > do not necessarily reflect any position of the author's employer.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, October 28, 2011 11:28 am, Robin Gross wrote:
> >> Thank you Milton.  I agree it was a worthwhile discussion and we were
> able
> >> to clarify several misunderstandings and recalibrate expectations
> >> regarding the NCSG membership application process so the SG should be
> less
> >> likely to have these hiccups in the future.
> >>
> >> Specifically, it was clarified that when new NCSG membership
> applications
> >> are submitted, they need to be submitted by the organization making the
> >> application itself (not the chair of NCUC or NPOC).  Although
> Konstantinos
> >> & Amber (as chairs of NCUC & NPOC) will come up with a membership form
> >> that can be submitted to the NCSG-EC and the constituency at the same
> >> time.  Applications will be responded to by the EC within 2 weeks from
> >> submission.  The NCSG-EC will conduct its due diligence and verify the
> >> applicants and make its decision as agreed in the NCSG charter.
> >>
> >> So with respect to the recent election results and the handling of
> >> membership applications, it was a very productive conversation and I am
> >> hopeful that we now have a clearer understanding of how to move forward.
> >> Actually, the NCSG Charter, which was agreed to by the NCSG membership,
> >> NCUC, NPOC and the ICANN Board proscribes many of the mechanisms and
> >> processes that should be followed for administration of the SG.
> >>
> >> It is my hope and sincere wish that past differences can be put aside
> and
> >> we can all begin working together in a cooperative and constructive
> >> fashion to build a stronger SG that promotes the interests of all
> >> noncommercial users of the DNS.  NCSG welcomes its new members,
> including
> >> NPOC members, and is looking forward to working with the participants in
> >> the coming months to build a stronger and more diverse SG at ICANN.
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >> Robin Gross
> >> NCSG Chair
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 28, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear members
> >>> NCSG EC members, NCUC members and NPOC leadership met in Dakar
> yesterday
> >>> with the ICANN Ombudsman acting as a neutral mediator.
> >>> The meeting focused on future practices for handling new membership
> >>> applications; there was and is no talk of undoing the election any
> more.
> >>> I think we identified some of the misunderstandings and process hiccups
> >>> that led to the initial problem and reached an agreement on how to
> >>> process membership applications in the future. I'll let Robin Gross,
> the
> >>> new NCSG Chair, fill you in on the details.
> >>>
> >>> Milton L. Mueller
> >>> Professor, Syracuse University School of Information Studies
> >>> Internet Governance Project
> >>> http://blog.internetgovernance.org
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> IP JUSTICE
> >> Robin Gross, Executive Director
> >> 1192 Haight Street, San Francisco, CA  94117  USA
> >> p: +1-415-553-6261    f: +1-415-462-6451
> >> w: http://www.ipjustice.org     e: robin at ipjustice.org
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
> > Member, Board of Directors, CECI, http://www.ceci.ca
> > Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
> www.schulich.yorku.ca
> > interim Vice Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
> > O:+1 514 484 7824; M:+1 514 704 7824
> > Skype: alain.berranger
> >
>
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