a concern regarding the ncuc event program

Thu Mar 3 06:54:58 CET 2011

This would be an interesting and important session for people like us from developing side of the world. Feel bad while missing since i will be arriving on 12th. Hope to catch up the discussions during the meeting breaks. Best of luck to the participants and organizers. 

Best Regards,

Naveed-ul-Haq 
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Pakistan Telecom Authority 
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> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:14:26 -0300
> From: ca at CAFONSO.CA
> Subject: Re: a concern regarding the ncuc event program
> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> 
> Good suggestions as well. I did not find their names in the registration
> list though (as of March 01).
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 03/02/2011 07:40 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> > Will Tan tin-wee or James Tseng be there? 
> > They are both Chinese, deeply involved in IDN stuff. 
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:ca at cafonso.ca]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:41 PM
> >> To: Milton L Mueller
> >> Cc: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: a concern regarding the ncuc event program
> >>
> >> No, I cannot do it, as I said. I am having nearly no time to follow
> >> things up -- actually I am going to Icann this time to refresh my memory
> >> and understanding of the zillion issues. I strongly suggest Alex who, I
> >> understand, will be in San Fran on time.
> >>
> >> --c.a.
> >>
> >> On 03/02/2011 02:43 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> >>> Why not put Carlos on the panel?
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On
> >> Behalf Of
> >>>> William Drake
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:31 PM
> >>>> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> >>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] a concern regarding the ncuc event
> >>>> program
> >>>>
> >>>> Carlos,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Dear people,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I have expressed my concern to the organizers regarding one of the
> >>>>
> >>>> Right, and I replied to you privately a couple hours ago.
> >>>>
> >>>>> My concern is that it is unbalanced regarding the expressions of the
> >>>>> "developing countries".
> >>>>
> >>>> Again,
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. I invited Olga Cavalli from Argentina but she's recently said her
> >>>> flight doesn't get in on time.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. I invited Alice Munyua from the Kenyan government but she needs
> >> more
> >>>> time to see if she can make it.  I just spoke with her again here in
> >>>> Brussels and she can give me an answer on Thursday.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3.  If Alice can't do it I said I'll invite someone else.  We need
> >>>> people who've been engaged with and can speak to the topics:
> >>>>
> >>>>> To what extent has ICANN addressed the unique concerns and
> >> promoted
> >>>>> the participation of developing country stakeholders?
> >>>>
> >>>> For example, we've been raising these questions in the Council and at
> >>>> the ICANN meetings, resulting inter alia in the formation of the JAS WG
> >>>> that's been working on options to help developing country and other
> >>>> resource challenged actors to deal with the high application fees for
> >>>> new gTLDs.  Avri and Rafik co-chair the group, so I asked them to speak
> >>>> about that and related.  There've also been the parallel discussions
> >>>> about promoting developing country participation, such as the Board WG
> >>>> meeting in Nairobi I spoke at, and the outreach team Olga's led.  And
> >>>> the conversations around this with board members and others at the
> >>>> workshop I organized at IGF Vilnius on ICANN and developing countries,
> >>>> and all the other continuing discussions with board staff SGs et al
> >>>> around these issues.
> >>>>
> >>>>> How do developing
> >>>>> country governments' experiences with and attitudes toward ICANN
> >>>>> affect the larger geopolitics of Internet governance, such as their
> >>>>> continuing pressure in the United Nations for a new intergovernmental
> >>>>> body that would have "oversight" of ICANN?
> >>>>
> >>>> Issues that are being illustrated here in Brussels, as well as last week
> >>>> in Geneva, and also have been addressed e.g. in the five IGF events I've
> >>>> organized on development agenda issues.  I asked Markus Kummer to
> >> join
> >>>> for that part of the discussion because he's recently left the hot seat
> >>>> at the IGF and can now speak freely to these issues, which all the
> >>>> current and hoped for panelists have pretty extensive first hand
> >>>> experience with.
> >>>>
> >>>>> What do these dynamics mean for the
> >>>>> global public interest, and for the priorities of noncommercial users?
> >>>>
> >>>> We will have about 50 minutes to cover all this grounds, so like 25
> >>>> minutes on internal ICANN and 25 on external geopolitical dimensions.
> >>>> So nobody's going to have tons of mic time and we will need to move
> >>>> crisply through a structured discussion (not serial talking heads) in
> >>>> order to map this terrain and provide the audience with a good
> >> framework
> >>>> for discussion.
> >>>>
> >>>>> If you share this concern, could you help suggesting more names from
> >>>>> the South which could be added (if the organizers agree, of course),
> >>>>> and who will certainly be in San Fran by March 11th?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.  Let me see what happens from Alice and if that doesn't work
> >>>> let's look at options.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I understand it should be a person who is closely
> >>>>> following/participating in the international IG debate from civil
> >>>>> society's perspective.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yup
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just in case, I am out of question as I am not following the
> >>>>> issues/events/processes as closely as I should. Some very good people
> >>>>> (I can think of Alice from Kenya) will not arrive on time. Not sure
> >>>>> about Alex Gakuru's schedule though -- just to give a few examples of
> >>>> names.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It may help to take a look at the current list of registered
> >>>> participants:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >> https://www.registration123.com/reports/saved.cfm?r=%24*%40L%26V0%2
> >> 0%2
> >>>>> 0%0A
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Or maybe I am way out of my "jurisdiction" here... :)
> >>>>
> >>>> I told you I was working on it.  But ok, this panel doesn't have to be
> >>>> developed in the same way as all the others, suggestions of people
> >>>> who've been closely engaged with the topics and will be in attendance
> >>>> would of course be welcome.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Bill
> >>>
> > 

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