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<br>This would be an interesting and important session for people like us from developing side of the world. Feel bad while missing since i will be arriving on 12th. Hope to catch up the discussions during the meeting breaks. Best of luck to the participants and organizers. <br><br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Naveed-ul-Haq <br>Assistant Director (ICT)<br>Pakistan Telecom Authority <br>Headquarters F-5/1, <br>Islamabad <br>Ph. +92-51-9203911<br>Fax. +92-51-2878124<br>Mob. +92-342-5554444<br><br><br><br><br>> Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 23:14:26 -0300<br>> From: ca@CAFONSO.CA<br>> Subject: Re: a concern regarding the ncuc event program<br>> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>> <br>> Good suggestions as well. I did not find their names in the registration<br>> list though (as of March 01).<br>> <br>> --c.a.<br>> <br>> On 03/02/2011 07:40 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:<br>> > Will Tan tin-wee or James Tseng be there? <br>> > They are both Chinese, deeply involved in IDN stuff. <br>> > <br>> >> -----Original Message-----<br>> >> From: Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:ca@cafonso.ca]<br>> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:41 PM<br>> >> To: Milton L Mueller<br>> >> Cc: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>> >> Subject: Re: a concern regarding the ncuc event program<br>> >><br>> >> No, I cannot do it, as I said. I am having nearly no time to follow<br>> >> things up -- actually I am going to Icann this time to refresh my memory<br>> >> and understanding of the zillion issues. I strongly suggest Alex who, I<br>> >> understand, will be in San Fran on time.<br>> >><br>> >> --c.a.<br>> >><br>> >> On 03/02/2011 02:43 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:<br>> >>> Why not put Carlos on the panel?<br>> >>><br>> >>>> -----Original Message-----<br>> >>>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On<br>> >> Behalf Of<br>> >>>> William Drake<br>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:31 PM<br>> >>>> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU<br>> >>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] a concern regarding the ncuc event<br>> >>>> program<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> Carlos,<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>> Dear people,<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> I have expressed my concern to the organizers regarding one of the<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> Right, and I replied to you privately a couple hours ago.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>> My concern is that it is unbalanced regarding the expressions of the<br>> >>>>> "developing countries".<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> Again,<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> 1. I invited Olga Cavalli from Argentina but she's recently said her<br>> >>>> flight doesn't get in on time.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> 2. I invited Alice Munyua from the Kenyan government but she needs<br>> >> more<br>> >>>> time to see if she can make it. I just spoke with her again here in<br>> >>>> Brussels and she can give me an answer on Thursday.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> 3. If Alice can't do it I said I'll invite someone else. We need<br>> >>>> people who've been engaged with and can speak to the topics:<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>> To what extent has ICANN addressed the unique concerns and<br>> >> promoted<br>> >>>>> the participation of developing country stakeholders?<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> For example, we've been raising these questions in the Council and at<br>> >>>> the ICANN meetings, resulting inter alia in the formation of the JAS WG<br>> >>>> that's been working on options to help developing country and other<br>> >>>> resource challenged actors to deal with the high application fees for<br>> >>>> new gTLDs. Avri and Rafik co-chair the group, so I asked them to speak<br>> >>>> about that and related. There've also been the parallel discussions<br>> >>>> about promoting developing country participation, such as the Board WG<br>> >>>> meeting in Nairobi I spoke at, and the outreach team Olga's led. And<br>> >>>> the conversations around this with board members and others at the<br>> >>>> workshop I organized at IGF Vilnius on ICANN and developing countries,<br>> >>>> and all the other continuing discussions with board staff SGs et al<br>> >>>> around these issues.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>> How do developing<br>> >>>>> country governments' experiences with and attitudes toward ICANN<br>> >>>>> affect the larger geopolitics of Internet governance, such as their<br>> >>>>> continuing pressure in the United Nations for a new intergovernmental<br>> >>>>> body that would have "oversight" of ICANN?<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> Issues that are being illustrated here in Brussels, as well as last week<br>> >>>> in Geneva, and also have been addressed e.g. in the five IGF events I've<br>> >>>> organized on development agenda issues. I asked Markus Kummer to<br>> >> join<br>> >>>> for that part of the discussion because he's recently left the hot seat<br>> >>>> at the IGF and can now speak freely to these issues, which all the<br>> >>>> current and hoped for panelists have pretty extensive first hand<br>> >>>> experience with.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>> What do these dynamics mean for the<br>> >>>>> global public interest, and for the priorities of noncommercial users?<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> We will have about 50 minutes to cover all this grounds, so like 25<br>> >>>> minutes on internal ICANN and 25 on external geopolitical dimensions.<br>> >>>> So nobody's going to have tons of mic time and we will need to move<br>> >>>> crisply through a structured discussion (not serial talking heads) in<br>> >>>> order to map this terrain and provide the audience with a good<br>> >> framework<br>> >>>> for discussion.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>>> If you share this concern, could you help suggesting more names from<br>> >>>>> the South which could be added (if the organizers agree, of course),<br>> >>>>> and who will certainly be in San Fran by March 11th?<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> Thanks. Let me see what happens from Alice and if that doesn't work<br>> >>>> let's look at options.<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> I understand it should be a person who is closely<br>> >>>>> following/participating in the international IG debate from civil<br>> >>>>> society's perspective.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> Yup<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> Just in case, I am out of question as I am not following the<br>> >>>>> issues/events/processes as closely as I should. Some very good people<br>> >>>>> (I can think of Alice from Kenya) will not arrive on time. Not sure<br>> >>>>> about Alex Gakuru's schedule though -- just to give a few examples of<br>> >>>> names.<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> It may help to take a look at the current list of registered<br>> >>>> participants:<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>><br>> >> https://www.registration123.com/reports/saved.cfm?r=%24*%40L%26V0%2<br>> >> 0%2<br>> >>>>> 0%0A<br>> >>>>><br>> >>>>> Or maybe I am way out of my "jurisdiction" here... :)<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> I told you I was working on it. But ok, this panel doesn't have to be<br>> >>>> developed in the same way as all the others, suggestions of people<br>> >>>> who've been closely engaged with the topics and will be in attendance<br>> >>>> would of course be welcome.<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> Best,<br>> >>>><br>> >>>> Bill<br>> >>><br>> > <br> </body>
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