a concern regarding the ncuc event program

[Carlos A. Afonso]

Good suggestions as well. I did not find their names in the registration
list though (as of March 01).

--c.a.

On 03/02/2011 07:40 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> Will Tan tin-wee or James Tseng be there?
> They are both Chinese, deeply involved in IDN stuff.
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:ca at cafonso.ca]
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:41 PM
>> To: Milton L Mueller
>> Cc: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> Subject: Re: a concern regarding the ncuc event program
>>
>> No, I cannot do it, as I said. I am having nearly no time to follow
>> things up -- actually I am going to Icann this time to refresh my memory
>> and understanding of the zillion issues. I strongly suggest Alex who, I
>> understand, will be in San Fran on time.
>>
>> --c.a.
>>
>> On 03/02/2011 02:43 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
>>> Why not put Carlos on the panel?
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On
>> Behalf Of
>>>> William Drake
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:31 PM
>>>> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>>>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] a concern regarding the ncuc event
>>>> program
>>>>
>>>> Carlos,
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear people,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have expressed my concern to the organizers regarding one of the
>>>>
>>>> Right, and I replied to you privately a couple hours ago.
>>>>
>>>>> My concern is that it is unbalanced regarding the expressions of the
>>>>> "developing countries".
>>>>
>>>> Again,
>>>>
>>>> 1. I invited Olga Cavalli from Argentina but she's recently said her
>>>> flight doesn't get in on time.
>>>>
>>>> 2. I invited Alice Munyua from the Kenyan government but she needs
>> more
>>>> time to see if she can make it.  I just spoke with her again here in
>>>> Brussels and she can give me an answer on Thursday.
>>>>
>>>> 3.  If Alice can't do it I said I'll invite someone else.  We need
>>>> people who've been engaged with and can speak to the topics:
>>>>
>>>>> To what extent has ICANN addressed the unique concerns and
>> promoted
>>>>> the participation of developing country stakeholders?
>>>>
>>>> For example, we've been raising these questions in the Council and at
>>>> the ICANN meetings, resulting inter alia in the formation of the JAS WG
>>>> that's been working on options to help developing country and other
>>>> resource challenged actors to deal with the high application fees for
>>>> new gTLDs.  Avri and Rafik co-chair the group, so I asked them to speak
>>>> about that and related.  There've also been the parallel discussions
>>>> about promoting developing country participation, such as the Board WG
>>>> meeting in Nairobi I spoke at, and the outreach team Olga's led.  And
>>>> the conversations around this with board members and others at the
>>>> workshop I organized at IGF Vilnius on ICANN and developing countries,
>>>> and all the other continuing discussions with board staff SGs et al
>>>> around these issues.
>>>>
>>>>> How do developing
>>>>> country governments' experiences with and attitudes toward ICANN
>>>>> affect the larger geopolitics of Internet governance, such as their
>>>>> continuing pressure in the United Nations for a new intergovernmental
>>>>> body that would have "oversight" of ICANN?
>>>>
>>>> Issues that are being illustrated here in Brussels, as well as last week
>>>> in Geneva, and also have been addressed e.g. in the five IGF events I've
>>>> organized on development agenda issues.  I asked Markus Kummer to
>> join
>>>> for that part of the discussion because he's recently left the hot seat
>>>> at the IGF and can now speak freely to these issues, which all the
>>>> current and hoped for panelists have pretty extensive first hand
>>>> experience with.
>>>>
>>>>> What do these dynamics mean for the
>>>>> global public interest, and for the priorities of noncommercial users?
>>>>
>>>> We will have about 50 minutes to cover all this grounds, so like 25
>>>> minutes on internal ICANN and 25 on external geopolitical dimensions.
>>>> So nobody's going to have tons of mic time and we will need to move
>>>> crisply through a structured discussion (not serial talking heads) in
>>>> order to map this terrain and provide the audience with a good
>> framework
>>>> for discussion.
>>>>
>>>>> If you share this concern, could you help suggesting more names from
>>>>> the South which could be added (if the organizers agree, of course),
>>>>> and who will certainly be in San Fran by March 11th?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.  Let me see what happens from Alice and if that doesn't work
>>>> let's look at options.
>>>>>
>>>>> I understand it should be a person who is closely
>>>>> following/participating in the international IG debate from civil
>>>>> society's perspective.
>>>>
>>>> Yup
>>>>>
>>>>> Just in case, I am out of question as I am not following the
>>>>> issues/events/processes as closely as I should. Some very good people
>>>>> (I can think of Alice from Kenya) will not arrive on time. Not sure
>>>>> about Alex Gakuru's schedule though -- just to give a few examples of
>>>> names.
>>>>>
>>>>> It may help to take a look at the current list of registered
>>>> participants:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> https://www.registration123.com/reports/saved.cfm?r=%24*%40L%26V0%2
>> 0%2
>>>>> 0%0A
>>>>>
>>>>> Or maybe I am way out of my "jurisdiction" here... :)
>>>>
>>>> I told you I was working on it.  But ok, this panel doesn't have to be
>>>> developed in the same way as all the others, suggestions of people
>>>> who've been closely engaged with the topics and will be in attendance
>>>> would of course be welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Bill
>>>
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