a concern regarding the ncuc event program

[Milton L Mueller]

Will Tan tin-wee or James Tseng be there? 
They are both Chinese, deeply involved in IDN stuff. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carlos A. Afonso [mailto:ca at cafonso.ca]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 4:41 PM
> To: Milton L Mueller
> Cc: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> Subject: Re: a concern regarding the ncuc event program
> 
> No, I cannot do it, as I said. I am having nearly no time to follow
> things up -- actually I am going to Icann this time to refresh my memory
> and understanding of the zillion issues. I strongly suggest Alex who, I
> understand, will be in San Fran on time.
> 
> --c.a.
> 
> On 03/02/2011 02:43 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> > Why not put Carlos on the panel?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On
> Behalf Of
> >> William Drake
> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:31 PM
> >> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
> >> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] a concern regarding the ncuc event
> >> program
> >>
> >> Carlos,
> >>
> >> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear people,
> >>>
> >>> I have expressed my concern to the organizers regarding one of the
> >>
> >> Right, and I replied to you privately a couple hours ago.
> >>
> >>> My concern is that it is unbalanced regarding the expressions of the
> >>> "developing countries".
> >>
> >> Again,
> >>
> >> 1. I invited Olga Cavalli from Argentina but she's recently said her
> >> flight doesn't get in on time.
> >>
> >> 2. I invited Alice Munyua from the Kenyan government but she needs
> more
> >> time to see if she can make it.  I just spoke with her again here in
> >> Brussels and she can give me an answer on Thursday.
> >>
> >> 3.  If Alice can't do it I said I'll invite someone else.  We need
> >> people who've been engaged with and can speak to the topics:
> >>
> >>> To what extent has ICANN addressed the unique concerns and
> promoted
> >>> the participation of developing country stakeholders?
> >>
> >> For example, we've been raising these questions in the Council and at
> >> the ICANN meetings, resulting inter alia in the formation of the JAS WG
> >> that's been working on options to help developing country and other
> >> resource challenged actors to deal with the high application fees for
> >> new gTLDs.  Avri and Rafik co-chair the group, so I asked them to speak
> >> about that and related.  There've also been the parallel discussions
> >> about promoting developing country participation, such as the Board WG
> >> meeting in Nairobi I spoke at, and the outreach team Olga's led.  And
> >> the conversations around this with board members and others at the
> >> workshop I organized at IGF Vilnius on ICANN and developing countries,
> >> and all the other continuing discussions with board staff SGs et al
> >> around these issues.
> >>
> >>> How do developing
> >>> country governments' experiences with and attitudes toward ICANN
> >>> affect the larger geopolitics of Internet governance, such as their
> >>> continuing pressure in the United Nations for a new intergovernmental
> >>> body that would have "oversight" of ICANN?
> >>
> >> Issues that are being illustrated here in Brussels, as well as last week
> >> in Geneva, and also have been addressed e.g. in the five IGF events I've
> >> organized on development agenda issues.  I asked Markus Kummer to
> join
> >> for that part of the discussion because he's recently left the hot seat
> >> at the IGF and can now speak freely to these issues, which all the
> >> current and hoped for panelists have pretty extensive first hand
> >> experience with.
> >>
> >>> What do these dynamics mean for the
> >>> global public interest, and for the priorities of noncommercial users?
> >>
> >> We will have about 50 minutes to cover all this grounds, so like 25
> >> minutes on internal ICANN and 25 on external geopolitical dimensions.
> >> So nobody's going to have tons of mic time and we will need to move
> >> crisply through a structured discussion (not serial talking heads) in
> >> order to map this terrain and provide the audience with a good
> framework
> >> for discussion.
> >>
> >>> If you share this concern, could you help suggesting more names from
> >>> the South which could be added (if the organizers agree, of course),
> >>> and who will certainly be in San Fran by March 11th?
> >>
> >> Thanks.  Let me see what happens from Alice and if that doesn't work
> >> let's look at options.
> >>>
> >>> I understand it should be a person who is closely
> >>> following/participating in the international IG debate from civil
> >>> society's perspective.
> >>
> >> Yup
> >>>
> >>> Just in case, I am out of question as I am not following the
> >>> issues/events/processes as closely as I should. Some very good people
> >>> (I can think of Alice from Kenya) will not arrive on time. Not sure
> >>> about Alex Gakuru's schedule though -- just to give a few examples of
> >> names.
> >>>
> >>> It may help to take a look at the current list of registered
> >> participants:
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.registration123.com/reports/saved.cfm?r=%24*%40L%26V0%2
> 0%2
> >>> 0%0A
> >>>
> >>> Or maybe I am way out of my "jurisdiction" here... :)
> >>
> >> I told you I was working on it.  But ok, this panel doesn't have to be
> >> developed in the same way as all the others, suggestions of people
> >> who've been closely engaged with the topics and will be in attendance
> >> would of course be welcome.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Bill
> >