a concern regarding the ncuc event program

[Carlos A. Afonso]

No, I cannot do it, as I said. I am having nearly no time to follow
things up -- actually I am going to Icann this time to refresh my memory
and understanding of the zillion issues. I strongly suggest Alex who, I
understand, will be in San Fran on time.

--c.a.

On 03/02/2011 02:43 PM, Milton L Mueller wrote:
> Why not put Carlos on the panel?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: NCSG-NCUC [mailto:NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU] On Behalf Of
>> William Drake
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 12:31 PM
>> To: NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS at LISTSERV.SYR.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [NCSG-NCUC-DISCUSS] a concern regarding the ncuc event
>> program
>>
>> Carlos,
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 1:34 PM, Carlos A. Afonso wrote:
>>
>>> Dear people,
>>>
>>> I have expressed my concern to the organizers regarding one of the
>>
>> Right, and I replied to you privately a couple hours ago.
>>
>>> My concern is that it is unbalanced regarding the expressions of the
>>> "developing countries".
>>
>> Again,
>>
>> 1. I invited Olga Cavalli from Argentina but she's recently said her
>> flight doesn't get in on time.
>>
>> 2. I invited Alice Munyua from the Kenyan government but she needs more
>> time to see if she can make it.  I just spoke with her again here in
>> Brussels and she can give me an answer on Thursday.
>>
>> 3.  If Alice can't do it I said I'll invite someone else.  We need
>> people who've been engaged with and can speak to the topics:
>>
>>> To what extent has ICANN addressed the unique concerns and promoted
>>> the participation of developing country stakeholders?
>>
>> For example, we've been raising these questions in the Council and at
>> the ICANN meetings, resulting inter alia in the formation of the JAS WG
>> that's been working on options to help developing country and other
>> resource challenged actors to deal with the high application fees for
>> new gTLDs.  Avri and Rafik co-chair the group, so I asked them to speak
>> about that and related.  There've also been the parallel discussions
>> about promoting developing country participation, such as the Board WG
>> meeting in Nairobi I spoke at, and the outreach team Olga's led.  And
>> the conversations around this with board members and others at the
>> workshop I organized at IGF Vilnius on ICANN and developing countries,
>> and all the other continuing discussions with board staff SGs et al
>> around these issues.
>>
>>> How do developing
>>> country governments' experiences with and attitudes toward ICANN
>>> affect the larger geopolitics of Internet governance, such as their
>>> continuing pressure in the United Nations for a new intergovernmental
>>> body that would have "oversight" of ICANN?
>>
>> Issues that are being illustrated here in Brussels, as well as last week
>> in Geneva, and also have been addressed e.g. in the five IGF events I've
>> organized on development agenda issues.  I asked Markus Kummer to join
>> for that part of the discussion because he's recently left the hot seat
>> at the IGF and can now speak freely to these issues, which all the
>> current and hoped for panelists have pretty extensive first hand
>> experience with.
>>
>>> What do these dynamics mean for the
>>> global public interest, and for the priorities of noncommercial users?
>>
>> We will have about 50 minutes to cover all this grounds, so like 25
>> minutes on internal ICANN and 25 on external geopolitical dimensions.
>> So nobody's going to have tons of mic time and we will need to move
>> crisply through a structured discussion (not serial talking heads) in
>> order to map this terrain and provide the audience with a good framework
>> for discussion.
>>
>>> If you share this concern, could you help suggesting more names from
>>> the South which could be added (if the organizers agree, of course),
>>> and who will certainly be in San Fran by March 11th?
>>
>> Thanks.  Let me see what happens from Alice and if that doesn't work
>> let's look at options.
>>>
>>> I understand it should be a person who is closely
>>> following/participating in the international IG debate from civil
>>> society's perspective.
>>
>> Yup
>>>
>>> Just in case, I am out of question as I am not following the
>>> issues/events/processes as closely as I should. Some very good people
>>> (I can think of Alice from Kenya) will not arrive on time. Not sure
>>> about Alex Gakuru's schedule though -- just to give a few examples of
>> names.
>>>
>>> It may help to take a look at the current list of registered
>> participants:
>>>
>>> https://www.registration123.com/reports/saved.cfm?r=%24*%40L%26V0%20%2
>>> 0%0A
>>>
>>> Or maybe I am way out of my "jurisdiction" here... :)
>>
>> I told you I was working on it.  But ok, this panel doesn't have to be
>> developed in the same way as all the others, suggestions of people
>> who've been closely engaged with the topics and will be in attendance
>> would of course be welcome.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Bill
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