FW: [ncsg-policy] Draft NCSG comments to GNSO Council on Rec 6

[Dwi Elfrida Martina S]

Ok.. thanks for your advice nuno, My apologize. I don't meant anything and
not want seems to be arrogant person. No, I am not exist in two parties. I
was asked by my office to replace my boses in GAC meeting. But now, I am
free from my job, as I have to start my study in Massachusetts. and in
this time, I really interest to involve in NCSG.

Once again, my apologize, I just can not accept andrew's words that
reflect underestimate to new member of NCSG, without knowing the person
firstly. I don't know why he can say the things like that. My previous
comments written because I have already red the paper and ALAC's
statements and followed the ICANN meetings.Infact, there are so many
various point of views that related to.xxx, indeed so many people in ICANN
still have the same opinion with me. So, I think andrew to fast to
conclude that as new member of NCSG,I don't know anything and I don't read
anything before I put my comments.

Thanks so much nuno to remind me to more behave.. I'll remember and do it.

Regards,


Dwi







 I am not sure I did understand what Dwi said, but I'm pretty sure I don't
> suport or accept this kind of attitude. Dwi, please moderate yourself. If
> everyone of us starts pulling out its own merits, I'm pretty sure that
> your
> CV would be on the bottom part of the list (maybe along with mine).
>
> So please let us keep the sanity and humility and proactive learning
> attitudes that have always been cherished by us all in this list.
>
> Andrew, thank you for stating a position that is consisten with the group
> long agreed positions on freedom and human values.
>
> I agree with Andrew, and by contrast disagree with opinions that are
> contrary.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nuno Garcia
>
> On 12 January 2011 13:04, Dwi Elfrida Martina S <
> dwi.elfrida at depkominfo.go.id> wrote:
>
>> Hi andrew..
>>
>> I am new member of NCSG but not new member in ICANN. I have been 2 years
>> involve within ICANN and exist in GAC meeting from the fist time GAC
>> start
>> to Draft MOPO. I was replace DG of ICT  and Director of e-government of
>> Ministry of ICT of Indonesia who are representative in GAC.indeed, I am
>> fellowship of ICANN. So please.. watching your words!
>>
>> As I know, from beginning .XXX is site that intended for sex. .xxx is
>> inspire from .xxx.com that known as site for sex activities. But as they
>> propose counter to court of USA and make openness and freedom become
>> their
>> justification, so the court ask ICANN to review their .xxx proposal.
>> But,
>> if you have new issue that .XXX is not site for sex, you have to
>> announce
>> that thing to all participant in ICANN meeting, because as I know, from
>> Cartagena meeting, most of participant still have the same point of view
>> with me.
>>
>> Beside,my question to you, can you guarantee that the content of .XXX is
>> not site for sex? what kind of and openness and freedom that they asked
>> for? what is the proof that .XXX as TLD is nothing to do with .XXX.COM?
>> Yes.. I you are not Policy maker in NCSG, so please don't make any
>> conclusion before its not an agreement between members.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Dwi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Dwi,
>> >
>> > Before posting on any topic, I suggest you familiarise yourself with
>> the
>> > current issues by reading through the mailing list archives. There you
>> > will
>> > find that the creation of .xxx is settled NCSG policy and the
>> reasoning
>> > behind it has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with
>> openness,
>> > freedom and the following of existing rules rather than exactly the
>> kind
>> > of
>> > knee-jerk blinkered moralism that the MAPO proposals represent.
>> >
>> > I do not make NCSG policy, but I'm well aware of it, and of the
>> reasons
>> > for
>> > it.
>> >
>> > The MAPO issue has also been well-discussed by the existing
>> membership.
>> > While
>> > I welcome new members, I do not welcome them making personal attacks
>> on
>> > the
>> > basis of not understanding anything about the existing situation when
>> they
>> > join.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Professor Andrew A Adams                      aaa at meiji.ac.jp
>> > Professor at Graduate School of Business Administration,  and
>> > Deputy Director of the Centre for Business Information Ethics
>> > Meiji University, Tokyo, Japan       http://www.a-cubed.info/
>> >
>>
>