[ncdnhc-discuss] Participation without representation?

Jefsey Morfin jefsey at wanadoo.fr
Fri Mar 15 20:30:14 CET 2002


Dear Milton,
I am afraid that I can subscribe to every word Kent has writen here. And 
you could certainly have said the same about the Frax and Utel - my 
consulting firm.
Jefsey

On 06:31 15/03/02, Kent Crispin said:
>On Thu, Mar 14, 2002 at 03:47:21PM -0500, Milton Mueller wrote:
> >
> > There is no evidence that there is anyone other than Kent
> > in this Boat Club who gives a damn about DNS.
>
>There is no evidence that anyone other than you at the convergence
>center gives a damn about DNS, either.
>
>It is indeed true that for the most part, people in the potter-yachters
>don't know anything at all about DNS.  They are largely older folks (I
>estimate the mean age as 50 -- the oldest member is in his late 70's, I
>believe) with little sailboats on trailers that they tow to nearby lakes
>and bays, and use the net purely as a tool for furthering their
>activities.  The potter-yachters is representative of a enormous number
>of small organizations that use the internet for practical purposes, and
>not to support political advocacy on the topic of internet governance.
>It is a simple fact that most such organizations don't have *any*
>members who know anything at all about the DNS.  Such organizations will
>never be represented in the DNSO unless some interested member takes it
>upon themselves to get involved.
>
> > That is the whole problem with Potter Yachter's membership.
> > It is just a subterfuge for Kent's individual representation,
> > so that he can participate in DNSO to argue against
> > individual representation in ICANN. So given Kent's
> > membership in the Business constituency,
>
>"Kent" is not a member of the BC.  "Songbird", a legitimate small
>business run by my wife and myself, is a member of the BC.  Who
>Songbird choses as its voting representative is an open question, in
>fact -- it could be my wife.
>
> > if Potter Yachter's
> > want full voting membership in NCDNHC they have to put
> > forward a representative who is not Kent. If they are
> > unable to do this what does it tell you about the
> > status of this organization and its interest in NCDNHC?
>
>It tells you that they are a real-world organization, one of the vast
>majority of organizations connected to the internet that have only a
>very few members, if any, who are interested in DNS.
>
>
>--
>Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
>kent at songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
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