[ncdnhc-discuss] Payment

[Carlos Vera]

It makes sense. But you can get 15000 from 25 in 25? Maybe who design
this
amount to pay did some calculations I guess.

Carlos

Milton Mueller wrote:

> Carlos:
> One thing I hope you and everybody here understands:
> Not to pay DOES mean "no vote" for the NCDNHC as
> a whole. The DNSO is demanding $15,000 from us. The
> only way we have to raise it is through membership dues.
> So if we don't receive any dues, we will get no vote in the Names
> Council. Even if the constituency allows everyone to keep
> voting in NCDNHC business, it won't matter because we
> won't have any voice in the Names Council.
>
> --MM
>
> >>> Carlos Vera <cvera at interactive.net.ec> 01/10/02 07:12AM >>>
> If it is difficult to pay 25 because there is no money or ways to do...So
> put in an account  8 years of payment? In countries like Ecuador you need AT
> LEAST $1000 to open an account and to MOVE the money for $500 in average
> every month... or you must pay 1% for commission..
>
> To open an account it's not a good Idea in our countries.
>
> No international credit cards for all. So we need to have some mix of
> solutions
>
> My suggestion is:
>
> 1. You can pay 25 in cash if sometime you go to any Icann meeting (another
> problem because in developing countries you have no money to travel), but
> sometimes several of us go to Icann meeting so we can pay there.
>
> 2.Pay with credit card who have a credit card.
>
> 3. Get some fellow from developed countries to replace the payment of
> developing countries. (You do this in organizations like ISOC)
>
> 4. Pay with services. For example do some task, help with something..
>
> What MUST BE CLEAR is that NOT TO PAY MUST NO MEAN NO VOTE or no
> participation at all.
>
> Carlos Vera Quintana
>
> Jeff Williams wrote:
>
> > Kathy and all,
> >
> > KathrynKL at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >   This payment situation is troubling.  The intent was never, of
> > > course, to
> > > make anyone pay for banking transfers, wire transfers, etc (with their
> > >
> > > overhead of $50-$75).   I have checked with ACM, which provides
> > > discounted
> > > fees to members in developing countries, and most people use credit
> > > cards.
> >
> >   Indeed it is troubling but unnecessarily so.  There are several
> > methods
> > to do wire transfers without incurring such high fees for international
> > transfers in mow countries.  One method that I use regularly is
> > to set yourself up a Treasury ADR account with a small amount of
> > money in it (say $200.00 US or so other currencies of course
> > that are exchange currencies are of course welcome.  For europeans
> > I would suggest using the now preferred Euro).  You can contact
> > your local embassy or if you are a US citizen living abroad as well
> > as a non-us citizen, you may contact the treasury representative,
> > or commerce representative to effect this.  Than transfers of this
> > sort to recognized international banks and accounts can be effected
> > for a nominal fee ( 3 - 15 $ US in every case that I am aware of )
> > Another method is a international brokerage account, which I also
> > use frequently as well.  Again you will need to establish this account
> > and minimums vary from as little as $200.00 US or equivalent to
> > $10,000.00 depending of the firm's requirements.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > We now have representatives from many countries attending our NCC and
> > > the
> > > ICANN meetings worldwide.  I assume that everyone is using credit
> > > cards for
> > > the airline tickets, hotel payments, etc.
> >
> >   I doubt that everyone or even a majority of those outside the US are
> > using credit cards for their expenses, Kathy.
> >
> > >  Is it possible for an individual
> > > member to receive the $25. in local funds, and then go ahead and pay
> > > the fee
> > > on a personal credit card?
> >
> >   It should be if there is a Transit and account number as well as a
> > address.
> >
> > >  Another option might be travelers checks in US
> > > currency.  Possible?
> >
> >   Yes this should be possible in most countries.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Since everyone seems to believe that the $25.00 is doable, then this
> > > is a
> > > logistical problem I am sure we can solve.
> >
> >   See some solutions I mentioned above.  Travelers checks are also
> > a good option as well and are expectable in most countries.
> >
> >   Personal Note of Interest:  I am amazed that vany or any other
> > international traveler with a passport does not have much of this
> > information memorized and knows the different ways in which this
> > can be accomplished at a very low cost!
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > regards, kathy kleiman
> > > acm-igp
> > >
> > >
> > > > For many people in developing countries are expensive to be able to
> > > send
> > > > $25.00 in a timely manner.
> > > >
> > > > A banking transfer can cost from $50.00-$75.00 plus the amount to
> > > send
> > > > which, in this case is $25.00.
> > > > A wire transfer also can cost from $25.00.
> > > >
> > > > Credit Card (Visa, Master Card, American Express...) is more
> > > feasible.
> > > > However, still there will be some that are not able to make payment
> > > by
> > > > credit card because are not international, or because simply they
> > > don't
> > > > have credit card.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
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