[ncdnhc-discuss] No new LA agenda

Milton Mueller Mueller at syr.edu
Fri Sep 28 21:50:37 CEST 2001


Vany and all:
My message made it clear that I thought hijacking the Marina del Rey 
agenda was a bad idea. I did not state that that was the position of the
NCDNHC. You can express a different opinion on the NC list if you
like. 

However, I have heard support from other Names Council 
members, and I have little doubt that our constituency as a
whole will see the need to continue on with pressing business.

A simple, rational response to current events would be to call 
for a new Task Force or Working Group to investigate security issues,
and to ASK the constituencies and SO's to put security on their 
agenda. It is simply unacceptable for staff members to dictate agenda
and pre-empt other matters. There is no evidence whatsoever
of an imminent threat to DNS. The particular terrorists we are
dealing with are not interested in disrupting web sites and email.
They want to kill people, large numbers of them. I have not 
yet heard of a way one can become a martyr by hacking.
The root servers do not make an inviting target for bombs
or hijacked planes.

As for Kent's comment that there "might be a terrorist attack" 
on the ICANN meeting.... I am continually amazed at how low
he will go. Yes, Kent, there might. Will you please explain to me
how changing the agenda will affect that? Will the revised agenda
require all participants to come dressed and armed as a commando? 

There "might" also be be terrorist attacks in Washington, on the Eiffel 
Tower in Paris, on London's Big Ben, or, if I stay in Syracuse, a 747
might be crashed into the University's Center for Science and 
Technology, in which case I would be safer in MdR.

Thanks for a constructive addition to the dialogue, Kent.

>>> vany_martinez at yahoo.com 09/28/01 09:55AM >>>
Hi Dany, Milton and all:

I am agree with Dany. Please, lets hear what the
constituency have to say about ICANN Agenda issues,
before express a position in behalf of the NCDNHC.

In my personal view, I think that ICANN should deal
with this important technical issues of security and
stability.  It is part of its mission.  Whether
replace or not totally the agenda or postpone issues
to the next meeting...well, that's other issue that we
have to consider before make a final position about
it.

However, lets suppouse that ICANN decides to follow
with its position of deal with the issues of security
and stability postponing other issues...The NCDNHC
doesn't have to change its own agenda...I think that
the NCDNHC has to organize its agenda in a way that
both policy and technical issues be dealt or
discussed.

I think that we should wait to see what are the topics
inside the agenda that ICANN will propose before state
make any statement.

Best Regards
Vany



--- Dany Vandromme <vandrome at renater.fr> wrote:
> Milton,
> I would appreciate that you consult the constituency
> and the adcom,
> BEFORE stating any of your personal view/reaction
> near the Names
> Council, on behalf of the constituency. I understand
> well that you do
> not feel concerned by robustness or stability, but
> make it clear to
> everyone that it is your point of view, and not more
> so far.
> Dany
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Milton Mueller wrote:
> > 
> > NCC members:
> > I have already sent a message to the Names Council
> challenging and
> > opposing this proposed change of focus. ICANN has
> some extremely
> > important ongoing policy issues to resolve. ICANN
> still has major
> > unfinished business regarding its basic structure.
> Months of preparation
> > have been put into preparing UDRP review and the
> ALSC. The ORG
> > divestiture is a contractual REQUIREMENT that must
> be executed by the
> > end of next year. All of these issues, and others,
> MUST be handled at the
> > November Annual Meeting if DNSO and ICANN are to
> function as policy
> > making bodies.
> > 
> > The NCDNHC agenda will not be altered in any way
> by this unilateral
> > announcement of the ICANN staff, nor, I am
> confident, will the
> > activities of other constituiencies or the Names
> Council.
> > 
> > ICANN itself has very little to do with the
> "robustness" or "security"
> > of Internet infrastructure. Secure protocols are
> developed by the
> > IETF and adopted by industry. The physical
> security required to
> > protect infrastructure from violent attack is the
> responsibility of
> > law enforcement and private sector operators.
> Certainly some
> > discussion of the topic would be appropriate. But
> this attempt to
> > completely shove aside all ongoing work and
> completely redefine
> > the agenda must be greeted with suspicion.
> > 
> > If nothing else, our constituency must not allow
> its own agenda
> > to be set by unilateral commands emanating from an
> self-appointed
> > staff and an incomplete, unrepresentative Board.
> > 
> > >>> Manon Ress <mress at essential.org> 09/27/01
> 05:13PM >>>
> > [QUOTE] The Internet Corporation for Assigned
> Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> > is turning its focus sharply toward Internet
> security and stability. Its
> > annual meeting in November has been reshaped to
> look at these issues,
> > possibly bumping other items off the agenda, ICANN
> President Stuart Lynn
> > said in a Wednesday statement. "The events of
> September 11 have caused
> > institutions worldwide to rethink their plans and
> priorities," Lynn said
> > of the terrorist attacks in the United States. "As
> an international
> > institution, ICANN is not immune. In light of
> these new circumstances,
> > it would be irresponsible for ICANN not to conduct
> an in-depth
> > assessment of the robustness and security of the
> Internet's naming and
> > addressing systems." Lynn called for public input
> on how the issue
> > should be addressed at the meeting, such as
> potential threats, ways to
> > improve readiness and potential policy changes.
> [END OF QUOTE]
> > in National Journal's Tech Daily pm
> edition--William New
> > 
> > On ICANN's page:
> >
>
http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-26sep01.htm 
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