[ncdnhc-discuss] Names Council Task Force ORG policy

[Michael Froomkin - U.Miami School of Law]

I am persuaded of the error of my ways.   Back to lurking.

On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Barbara Simons wrote:

> Milton et al,
> 
> I have to apologize for a mistake I made.  When I agreed
> with Adam's request, I had assumed that  he had in mind
> discussing the CEDRP at the NCDNHC meeting.  I know
> that's not what he said, but I'm overwhelmed with email
> right now, and I'm trying to process it as fast as I can.
> This leads to my making mistakes.  Sorry.
> 
> If there is time to discuss the CEDRP at the NCDNHC
> meeting, I'd be interested in hearing other people's thoughts
> on the topic.  Meanwhile, I agree that it's best not to raise
> the issue at the NC meeting without having first sounded out
> several of the other members of the NC.
> 
> Barbara
> 
> Milton Mueller wrote:
> 
> > Adam:
> > First, the NC rarely gets through the items that are already
> > on its agenda. Second, even if I could get it on it's quite
> > dangerous to throw things onto the NC agenda without
> > adequate preparation. The majority of the NC often takes
> > policy positions that are diametrically opposed to our interests.
> > Even when we have common ground, an educational process
> > needs to take place first.
> >
> > As for space on the agenda, please note that the largest
> > item is, ahem, "security".
> >
> > The language on CEDRP was a
> > cautious way of avoiding ICANN's inevitable request for
> > a restrictive dispute policy in a chartered domain. I am
> > not willing to open that issue outside the TF.
> >
> > Remember, this is the draft for public comment, not
> > the final document. There is an opportunity for everyone
> > to make their views known on what is in there now.
> > We can modify it based on those comments later.
> >
> > >>> Adam Peake <ajp at glocom.ac.jp> 10/04/01 10:13AM >>>
> > >Surely you jest.  Almost nothing in the new gTLD contracts springs from
> > >any process other than Louis Touton.
> >
> > Then I ask our Adcom members to add the CEDRP as an emergency item
> > for discussion during the next NC meeting?
> >
> > There must be space on the agenda as everyone seems to agree that the
> > GA chair item is a silly formality (including the names council
> > chair.)  Quite a few NC members were more than a little put out when
> > Verisign contract negotiations bypassed the DNSO, this seems no less
> > of a slight.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Adam
> >
> > Adam Peake
> > GLOCOM  Tokyo
> >
> > >Although touted as 'template' agreements and 'models' they were negotiated
> > >in secret, with strong-arm tactics and without any input from affected
> > >third parties.
> > >
> > >Exhibit A for What's Wrong With ICANN.
> > >
> > >cf. http://www.icannwatch.org/article.php?sid=355
> > >
> > >On Thu, 4 Oct 2001, Adam Peake wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  >I support ORG being sponsored and unrestricted.  But, is it a good
> > >>  >idea at this stage to deny any opportunity for innovation wrt some
> > >>  >kind of restriction beyond end user choice?
> > >>  >
> > >  > >What is a "CEDRP"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Someone kindly answered my question:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >><http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/sponsored/sponsorship-agmt-att12-08sep01.htm>
> > >>
> > >>   From which consensus policy did this piece of work come from?  I
> > >>  thought the DNSO organized a couple of working groups on IP issues
> > >>  and new TLDs, and there's a UDRP task force ongoing now. There was
> > >>  absolutely nothing like this in any work I remember.
> > >>
> > >>  Thanks,
> > >>
> > >>  Adam
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  >Thanks,
> > >>  >
> > >>  >Adam
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  >
> > >>  >>This is the draft of the policy that will go out for public comment.
> > >>  >>The NC Task Force has been working together reasonably well.
> > >>  >>There are some possible tensions around the issue of
> > >>  >>marketing restrictions on registrars, but on the whole everyone
> > >>  >>seems to buy into the specific approach here. You comments
> > >>  >  >welcome.
> > >>  >  >
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> > >>
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