[ncdnhc-discuss] About Marketing Practices in .ORG

[Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales]

Milton:

Milton Mueller wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> The draft was submitted simultaneously to
> this list and to the TF.
> 
> Your tactic of ignoring reality and pretending
> that we can go forward with Sponsored,
> Unrestricted is untenable. Any advice you
> give me based on that premise will be ignored.
Well...I suppouse that by you only...because I haven't read 
any other one saying the same.  You are pretencius to say
that you will ignore the comments and questions of a member of
the NCDNHC!!!  In any case you are saying that Syracuse University
is ignoring APC comments...not a good attitude.
 
> We are in a position where we must choose between
> a sponsored format that threatens to impose
> restrictions on registrants that almost all
> members of this constituency find onerous,
The only one who said it is onerous is you!!! 
With a good model of restrictions on registrants (restricition
of registration to commercial entities in .ORG), such thing shouldn't be
"onerous". 

> or an unsponsored format that may not provide
> as much control over registrars as some of us
> would like.
an Unesponsored format is worst:  there is no compromise
at all with the target community (the Non-Commercials).  In fact with
Unesponsored
Unrestricted there is not target community at all, and 
with UU anyone who is granted for .ORG doesn't have any
obligations with Non-Commercial sector...Then .ORG will remain as usual
where the Non-Commercials will not have any rights more than those given
by UDRP...And who
wants to pay and UDRP in the Non-Commercial sector for claim a domain
name already registered by a commercial??? No one because it is
expensive.  The Sponsored model gives to the Non-COmmercial sector
control over .ORG domain
and means compromise with the Non-Commercial sector within .ORG
 
> That's the choice. As an elected representative
> of the constituency my feeling is that U,U
> is much preferable, and numerous members have
> made it clear they support that decision.
No...the only member I read that supports UU is you and two more persons
that said that supportted you
but never clarifies what they was supporting from you. 
We are more than one hundreds members.  So, believe me, Milton, you as
an elected representative to the Names Council, shame on you if
you vote UU without having inside the NCDNHC an official votation
to elect the model that the constituency believes is the best option for
.ORG.  And such votation
should  have available for the members the four options:  

Unesponsored Unrestricted
Unesponsored Restricted
Sponsored Unrestricted
Sponsored Restricted

> If we get stuck with the Sponsored, Restricted
> format, then I will argue that the restrictions
> should be imposed on registrars, not registrants.

The minimum restrictions I ask for Registrants is that Commercial
Entities are not able to register domain names in .ORG, that
anyone within Non-Commercial sector can challenge any domain
registered in .ORG by a Commercial and that such domain be succesfully
granted to the challenger, the Non-Commercial...For this it is needed 
an special DRP (similar to the CEDRP for .MUSEUM and .COOP).

For Registrars, the only requirements I would ask are:
1.  To have a transfers protocol that avoids any conflicts amongst
Registrars
2.  That Registrars have systems to avoid unqualified registrations

Best Regards
Vany


-- 
Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales, BSEE
Information Technology Specialist
Sustainable Development Networking Programme/Panama
Member of the ICANN's DNSO Non-Commercial Constituency
Tel: (507) 317-0169
http://www.sdnp.org.pa
e-mail:  vany at sdnp.org.pa

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