[ncdnhc-discuss] About Marketing Practices in .ORG

[Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales]

Hi Kent, Milton and all:

I support Kent comments below.  In fact, I made similar comments
in my previous message.

Best Regards
Vany


Kent Crispin wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Dec 26, 2001 at 11:39:45PM -0500, Milton Mueller wrote:
> [...]
> > Our original sponsored, unrestricted proposal
> > would have the .org registry define a "charter"
> > identifying their community. But it would not
> > restrict entry at the point of registration.
> 
> Those are two independent issues: restrictions need not operate at
> registration time.  They can be enforced solely through
> post-registration DRP processes referred to in the registration
> agreement.
> 
> > > To obligate to Registrars in engage
> > > in specific marketing practices would generate
> > > more costs to Registrars
> > > which probably would have as consequence a higher
> > > cost for a domain name within .ORG
> >
> > Yes, that's one reasons why we are moving toward
> > favoring an "unsponsored, unrestricted" model.
> > If you are a "sponsored" domain you are obligated
> > to qualify registrars and control their practices
> > to some degree.
> 
> With post-registration DRP enforcement of the charter this is really a
> non-issue.  The only effect on registrars is that they use a different
> registration agreement than they currently do for .org -- no more
> complex to deal with than the procedures for .info and .biz.
> 
> > > Anyway, to discourage undesirable registrations the
> > > best tool is the CHARTER.
> >
> > The charter is just words on paper. The question is
> > whether and how you enforce registrations to conform
> > to it.
> >
> > > Since .ORG Divesture means that .ORG will be a
> > > Registry different to NSI, then, and based in the
> > > Policy Statement on .ORG, Would all Registrars that
> > > already paid fees to NSI, with the new .ORG Registry,
> > > also Registrars has to pay again fees in order to be
> > > able to follow providing their Registrars Services
> > > for .ORG?
> >
> > Answer: depends on whether it is "sponsored" or
> > "unsponsored." If it is "sponsored" then everything
> > muistchange for registrars.
> 
> That simply isn't true.  The fact that a sponsoring organization *can*
> impose requirements on registrars doesn't mean that a sponsoring
> organization *must* impose requirements.
> 
> > If it is unsponsored,
> > then their NSI fees could carry over.
> >
> > > What about new Registrars
> > > that were acredited to ICANN after .ORG Divesture?
> >
> > The applicants will make proposals about what to do.
> > It is too detailed for the policy stage. We did,
> > however, ask that any costs not be excessive.
> >
> > > what is the idea:  To not use anymore such Registrars
> > > services and transfers all domain names to
> > > Registrars that agreed in engage activities...or
> > > simply not use anymore such Registrar but letting
> > > such Registrar maintain their actual domain names
> > > inside .ORG?
> >
> > Your question assumes that we are using the "sponsored
> > unrestricted" model. But we have to change that.
> > We are forced to choose "unsponsored, unrestricted"
> > or "sponsored, restricted."
> >
> > If we choose S,R, then registrars will have to change,
> 
> There is nothing in the S,R model that *requires* significant change on
> the part of the registrars.
> 
> > although old registrations may be grandfathered.
> > Ifwe choose U,U, it is not a problem, because
> > anyone can be a registrar.
> 
> That could also be the case with a S,R model.
> 
> --
> Kent Crispin                               "Be good, and you will be
> kent at songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain
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Nilda Vany Martinez Grajales, BSEE
Information Technology Specialist
Sustainable Development Networking Programme/Panama
Member of the ICANN's DNSO Non-Commercial Constituency
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