[Ncuc-af] Upcoming NCSG elections
Rafik Dammak
rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 03:08:34 CEST 2018
Hi Farell,
I made the point for 2 reasons and without making any judgment behind any
intent:
- the question was asked before in NCSG list and answered.
- the question could be directed to me first as it is about me in the first
place.
I am not taking offense as I see good faith and took the opportunity to
clarify. But I also wanted to be clear that can be sensitive as a matter
and cannot be just dismissed. that is why I am calling for caution.
I am happy to move on from this matter as I made my point and clarified for
the inquiry.
Best,
Rafik
Le mer. 11 juil. 2018 à 09:56, Farell FOLLY <farell at benin2point0.org> a
écrit :
> Thanks Rafik for the clarification and Remmy for raising his point.
>
> I am happy that some people brought again this concern. In any case, it is
> an open election and democracy will help ensure fair and transparent
> elections. However, that does not deny us to have a strategy that will
> empower and serve better the interest of non-commercial users in Africa.
>
> In a separate note and before we continue let’s make something very clear
> : let’s not interpret people questions (to understand something they are
> confused about) as threats or attacks. It has been happening too much often
> those days in NCUC and NCSG and to me it is not a very a good attitude to
> directly interpret a question as if the recipient has something against the
> person targeted in the question. If somebody simply asks a question, let’s
> simply reply and noting beyond, unless there is a clear accusation, in this
> later there is always a way to deal with that respectfully. We are all
> human.
> I am not saying that I have noticed something similar yet in this thread
> but I dare to put this note because I do not wish that this happen to us
> here in the NCUC-AF list.
>
> @__f_f__
>
> Best Regards
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> Ekue (Farell) FOLLY
> Technology Champion & Chapter Head
> Africa 2.0 Foundation.
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> On 11 Jul 2018, at 02:07, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> Hi Remmy,
>
> Thanks,
> no worries, I am not angry. I only expressed concerns about this matter. I
> am happy to clarify anytime and I am open about this.
>
> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
> Le mer. 11 juil. 2018 à 08:48, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Thanks Rafik for the insights and clarification you provided.
>>
>> You do not have to be angry over the question, please.I know you have
>> been very helpful for Africa as far as NCUC and NCSG is concerned, but
>> then, a lot of people do not know the rationale of Asia-Pacific. So thanks
>> for the clarification provided. One was trying to situate where Africans
>> can leverage on this SG election. I am sure you explanation will help make
>> some inroads in this strategic thinking and planning.
>>
>> Presenting more candidates than available positions is well noted.
>>
>> Regards
>> RN
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>> On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:52 PM Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. We can also look around and shop for potentials and encourage them.
>>>>
>>>
>>> encouraging people to be candidates is fine, it is open election and it
>>> is better to have more candidates than available seats.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2. So I encourage us to look inwards, some candidates may be shy to
>>>> come out or even selfnominate looking first at the criteria for NCSG
>>>> including your humble self.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> also whoever who wants to run for those position needs to understand
>>> what that means in term of experience, work and commitment. Having been
>>> councillor and chair, I can give some insights what is expected there.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 3. What does NCSG charter say on criteria for EC Membership.
>>>>
>>>> See: Non-‐Commercial Stakeholder Group Charter – v5May 2011 - gNSO -
>>>> icann
>>>> PDFhttps://gnso.icann.org › improvements
>>>>
>>>>
>>> not sure to understand the link to EC membership? you mean the NCSG
>>> executive committee? they are not elected but appointed members by
>>> constituencies + the elected chair. however I assume you meant that the
>>> chair role and tasks are outlined there?
>>>
>>>
>>>> 4. There is also something I noticed from other regions which is worth
>>>> sharing - informal mentorship via engagement and potential in committees
>>>> and work groups way ahead of any election.
>>>>
>>>
>>> proven recordings of participation in working groups, drafting comments
>>> and so on help for sure.
>>>
>>>
>>>> 5. Maybe we start with providing information on Africans in NCSG of
>>>> date. I know of Poncellet from NPOC and Farrell from Ncuc both as
>>>> appointees not elected. It's unclear which region Rafik is rep. In some
>>>> instances he represents Africa and at another Asia Pacific where he lives.
>>>> I stand for more education.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> we need to be clear here, a NCSG GNSO councillor is not a representative
>>> for a region but the whole membership. The geographical and gender
>>> requirements in NCSG charter were set to ensure diversity and balance (so
>>> we don't hae 6 coucnillors from 1 or 2 regions onlu) but are not intended
>>> to create seat by region. that is a big misudnerstanding and being
>>> clarified for every election.
>>>
>>> I am still African but happens to reside in Asia Pacific like many other
>>> Africans over the world. the rules in ICANN about vary, some ask for
>>> country of origin and other for country of residence (including tax
>>> residence). That is at the end a personal declaration by the elected
>>> officer to decide what is the most accurate choice. After several years, I
>>> chose Asia Pacific as indication when elected as councillor because the
>>> country of residence is the practice for GNSO. In fact that decision, make
>>> it possible for other Africans to run, because if I didn't and with Arsene
>>> as councillor, there is no chance for another African to be elected under
>>> the geographical requirements.
>>>
>>> to be honest, I find this kind of questions concerning as it imply
>>> challenging someone appaternance or affliation. it is not soemthing healthy
>>> nor warranted. I am still Tunisian, the only citizenship I have and have
>>> strong ties my country and region. I advocated for the applicant support
>>> from developing countries in new gTLD program taking into consideration
>>> Africa. In the council I represent the whole NCSG membership and
>>> constituencies, and advocate NCSG positions.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Rafik
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 10 Jul 2018 7:54 am, "Arsène Tungali" <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Africa colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> As you know, based on the timeline that i pasted bellow, the nomination
>>>> period begings on July 18th and we need candidates from Africa to run for
>>>> these elections.
>>>>
>>>> I remember we discussed the need to somehow strategize before
>>>> nominations to the NCSG list so we can attempt to have agreed-upon
>>>> candidates from our Africa list before they can go public. This is not an
>>>> easy task but let’s try it this time.
>>>>
>>>> We need a new NCSG Chair and 3 councilors (only one is term ended, two
>>>> are still eligible for another term). We have good profiles here in Africa
>>>> and i would encourage you to step forward here in this thread by telling us
>>>> which position you are interested in.
>>>>
>>>> I hope we can do this and agree on few names that we will support. And
>>>> if you have any question, i am happy to help or look for clarification from
>>>> experienced members.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Arsene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NCSG elections timeline:
>>>>
>>>> Jul 06 check in begins
>>>> Jul 18 nomination period begins
>>>> Aug 01 nomination period ends
>>>> Aug 02 deadline for nomination acceptance and candidate
>>>> statement
>>>> Aug 03 voter roll finalized, check-in ends
>>>> Aug 06 meet the candidates
>>>> Aug 07 voting begins
>>>> Aug 20 voting ends
>>>> Aug 21 results announced
>>>>
>>>> *P**ositions: *
>>>>
>>>> Chair:
>>>> Farzaneh Badii - current NCSG Chair (till AGM 2018) - eligible for
>>>> another term
>>>>
>>>> GNSO COUNCILORS:
>>>> Rafik Dammak - Asia Pacific (AGM 2018) - eligible for another term
>>>>
>>>> Stephanie Perrin – North America (AGM 2018) – term-limited
>>>> Martin Silva Valent – Latin America and the Caribbean (AGM
>>>> 2018) - eligible for another term
>>>>
>>>> -----------------
>>>> Arsène Tungali,
>>>> about.me/ArseneTungali
>>>> +243 993810967
>>>> GPG: 523644A0
>>>> Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)
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