[Oprtf] OPRTF Call | Attendance & Zoom Recordings | Thursday, 15 May 2025

Lily Edinam Botsyoe lilybotsyoe at gmail.com
Sun Jun 15 05:42:35 CEST 2025


Dear Pedro,

Thank you for the update. Friday should work for me. I will try to make it
at the time started-15 00 UTC.

Best regards,
Lily

On Sat, Jun 14, 2025 at 5:59 PM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> After proposing the postponement to next Thursday, I realized I will be
> mid-flight, going to the IGF, during the proposed time. *Could we change
> the meeting to Friday, June 20th, 15:00 UTC? If not, either Namra needs to
> be available to lead the meeting, or we would have to have a larger meeting
> the week following the IGF to finish all the work. I'm asking you, until
> midnight of June 16th (UTC/GMT), to answer with your preference among those
> two alternatives - which means (a) moving to June 20th, 15 UTC or (b)
> maintaining on June 19th, 15 UTC if Namra is available, and, if not, doing
> a larger meeting after the IGF, on July 3rd, 15UTC).*
>
> Here is the link so we can start working on the next sections (Sections
> III to VIII):
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XfKcFS1meIQczWc_hRKBllEpU7Ty2fHvZhUkQOjfHnw/edit?usp=sharing
>
> Commenting on a few points, especially about the final decision on
> Sections I to II *(PLEASE READ):*
>
> Thanks for your patience in waiting for the next steps after I was able to
> check in with Namra - the numerous Internet Governance processes that are
> culminating this month are consuming a lot of time, and the way things
> happened made it hard to think about how to proceed here. *I once again
> ask this Task Force not to* *leave new suggestions to the last minute or
> during the call, since this makes our work deeply inefficient.* We can't
> leave the meetings with more questions than we started, or noticing things
> that we'd like to change when we should already be building a first level
> of consensus. At each controversial point, we need to get to two or more
> proposals, so we can vote on them afterwards.
>
> *As mentioned before, suggestions that were brought up only during the
> call were not accounted for and will not be inserted in the proposal of the
> review. *
>
> As far as I understood, besides smaller suggestions already listed on the
> doc (and I have presumed consensus for those that were apparently not part
> of the call and had no comment on them on the doc), these here are
> decisions on controversial issues:
>
>
>    - NCUC PC
>       - Consensus: Reevaluate forming NCUC PC; no editing until
>       conceptual agreement. *I understand, then, that there was consensus
>       for not changing any of the text there.*
>       - Decision: Remove all Trello references—Confluence is now standard.
>    - Appointments and positions
>       - Avoid overlapping roles when travel is involved. *I understand
>       that there was consensus here.*
>       - In the notes, there is an objection to mandatory criteria, but no
>       consensus seems to have emerged. I maintain my personal position, as this
>       is the only way to block people who do not actually do work within the
>       NCSG. *I would like to ask for a vote on the list between those two
>       options: (i) we should have mandatory engagement criteria, allowing for
>       explicit justification and some flexibility [I'd go with Karzan's wording];
>       (ii) no mandatory engagement criteria.*
>       - Two similar discussions about the relevance of the appointments
>       were raised:
>          - EC meetings should always be held for at least for more
>          important roles, such as NomCom. No indication of a consensus or concrete
>          suggestion in the notes.
>          - Interviews should happen to fill critical roles. No indication
>          of a consensus here.
>          - *Would like, then, to ask for a vote on what are those
>          critical roles (a) NomCom and PIR; (b) NomCom, PIR and NCSG EC *
>       - Emergency roles should be temporary; full process must
>       follow. Shortened timelines allowed—but must be transparent and justified. *I
>       understand that there is consensus here, but no text was suggested.*
>
> Please check if I missed something.
>
> Cordially,
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
> Researcher
> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
> Coordination/Board/EC @ ISOC Brazil <https://www.isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
> <https://www.ncuc.org/> & NCSG
> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN) and CC
> Brazil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>.
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>
> Em ter., 10 de jun. de 2025 às 13:18, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Sorry for not following up on this yet, I still need to catch up with
>> Namra to decide on next steps.
>>
>> But I'm sending this message to let everyone know that the meeting that
>> would potentially happen this week is moved to next week, due to ICANN83.
>> I'll send the next working doc later today.
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>> Advogado - OAB/PR 90.600 <https://www.nic.br/>,  Pesquisador (GEDAI/UFPR
>> <https://www.gedai.com.br/>)
>> Doutorando em Direito (UFPR), Mestre em Direito Empresarial (UCoimbra),
>> Coordenação/Diretoria/EC @ ISOC Brasil <https://www.isoc.org.br/>, NCUC
>> <https://www.ncuc.org> & NCSG
>> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Home>(ICANN), CC
>> Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/>.
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>>
>> Em qui., 29 de mai. de 2025, 18:55, Andrea Glandon <
>> andrea.glandon at icann.org> escreveu:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please find below the attendance and recordings from the Operating
>>> Procedures Review Task Force meeting held on Thursday, 29 May 2025 at 15:00
>>> UTC.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This information is also available on the wiki here.
>>> [icann-community.atlassian.net]
>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/AQDqE__;!!PtGJab4!_BNFy05-elTUc5Q2yZiITU7ZJTrsf2ATyR5jZuDYYOLs5fQRt_ZLSpUijJPQuhvyUO8iFqtvxExp1tNxT_ch8JSXINxS3hY3OQo$>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Attendees: *Ken Herman, Mohammad Atif Aleem, Raymond Mamattah, Hakikur
>>> Rahman, Lily Edinam Botsyoe, Namra Naseer, Oksana Prykhodko, Pascal BEK. |*
>>> Apologies: *Pedro de Perdigão Lana, Gabriel Karsan, Houda Chihi |*
>>> ICANN org:* Andrea Glandon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Zoom Replay
>>> <https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/fWyaeGwT9UZQkQl0pe4uFnHpeB2lB2aDFWKk14QEjZ8nI_azMI3_MfhbKa86tOXSbYrOmdTpkNmb7Pbw.GAoBENDTApiIahoD>
>>>
>>> Audio Replay
>>> <https://icann.zoom.us/rec/play/b9_zkqr4sqIHtxZAxCfqBDt0GJ4e7qTMpvqyb4JoAk79QoaFbC3xz-BptYxGJXNT1OlmvTBI1uYSN_kx.il_Yirmz8Y9pt91x>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> *Andrea Glandon*
>>>
>>> Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator
>>>
>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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