[NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN84 CROP

Wed Sep 3 23:08:58 CEST 2025

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On Wed, 3 Sept 2025, 8:56 pm Andrea Glandon, <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
wrote:

> Thank you! I will go ahead and send the email to the list with the
> announcement.
>
>
>
> *From: *Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Wednesday, September 3, 2025 at 15:01
> *To: *Namra Naseer <fr.namra at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>, "Exec. Comm" <
> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN84 CROP
>
>
>
> Hello Andrea, please let's proceed with the majority decision. I fully
> support it, and I’m sorry for getting back to you late.
>
>
>
> *Wisdom Donkor* (CASP+,  CISM, CEH Certified,)
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> On Wed, 3 Sept 2025, 4:44 pm Namra Naseer, <fr.namra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> If someone can send a reminder to Wisdom, we can proceed with the
> decision.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 3, 2025 at 11:41 AM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Mili,
>
>
>
> Reinforcing my previous message, the issue discussed back then was not
> travel slots, but people participating in multiple groups and potentially
> not dedicating themselves to the constituency. In other words, the problem
> here is stimulating more people who are not truly engaged to be part of
> NCSG and NCUC, as this is an issue we already have and may lead to further
> deterioration of the group, such as normalizing a lack of fulfillment even
> of the basic tasks/obligations.
>
>
>
> Cordially,
>
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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> Em qua., 3 de set. de 2025 às 02:24, Mili <milisemlani at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
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> To Pedro’s point, I think we at NCUC also have people with more than one
> position with their own travels slots… eg: Pedro and Amin are  NCUC
> representatives to NCSG and NCUC EC members (even while it’s in the same
> constituency) both these positions come with travel slots and won’t it look
> a bit hypocritical on our part to set a rule against that when we are
> ourselves holding multiple positions with travel slots.
>
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> Just my two cents.
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> With gratitude
>
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> On 3 Sep 2025, at 04:37, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I was trying to find a solution, and Yao mentioned he'd need to apply for
> a visa at least 3 months in advance to be sure he would be able to get it.
> It is possible that he would still be able to get the visa on time, but it
> is not a certain thing, and because of that, Atif goes back to being my
> choice. This means we have 4 votes for him now.
>
>
>
> Cordially,
>
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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> Em ter., 2 de set. de 2025 às 13:17, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
> Hi Namra, I think we are talking about two different processes. The
> discussion we had in the selection process of the FC was not about serving
> in two positions eligible for travel. The FC was not one of these, and I
> believe the person who was applying also was not in a position with a
> travel opportunity in NCSG or other groups.
>
>
>
> Cordially,
>
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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> Em ter., 2 de set. de 2025 às 13:13, Namra Naseer <fr.namra at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> As long as the person is 1. Contributing and active 2. Eligible. I
> don't see a problem. I don't think you can travel on two CROP slots anyway.
> The point made previously was about people *serving in two positions*
> that are both eligible for travel, that is when a travel slot is wasted.
>
>
>
> This process (EC selection) is in place to avoid the exact circumstances
> you pointed out. NCSG/NCUC/NPOC is not a subsidiary opportunity and that is
> why we are here to filter out applications.
>
>
>
> Let's finalize soon so the recipient can make timely arrangements.
>
>
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> On Tue, Sep 2, 2025 at 10:51 AM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hmmm, so this is not a small issue.
>
>
>
> We already discussed in previous selection processes about being in two
> groups at the same time (I think the most recent one in NCUC was in the
> NCUC FC application, although at NCSG level this was mentioned other
> times): it is not by itself a problem, as long as the person does not
> occupy positions/apply for travel slots in both, since this is a potential
> harmful practice for guaranteeing future engagement in non-commercial
> activities. When I talked with Atif back at the meeting, I was trying to
> steer him in the non-commercial direction. Other groups already do this
> filter, and I think it may be risky to create an image that NCSG/NCUC/NPOC
> is a subsidiary opportunity.
>
>
>
> The thing here is that I'm not comfortable with denying an application for
> someone under a reasoning that is not always applied (I don't know if
> others also share the same reasoning), as it feels unfair to the person
> denied. If we choose to proceed with Atif, which is still a possibility, I
> think it would be important to establish a clear guideline on that, so we
> can also put this in the Operating Procedures and avoid inconsistency.
> Should we accept those situations or not, and, if yes (again, I believe
> this is a choice, not a problem in itself), overall or under certain
> circumstances?
>
>
>
> Cordially,
>
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>
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> Em ter., 2 de set. de 2025 às 11:54, Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> Yes . He was elected for the coming term .
>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 2, 2025, 16:40 Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
> wrote:
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> It looks like Mohammad Atif Aleem is on the EURALO Board: https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/GACGDg
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> *From: *Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 09:03
> *To: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
> *Cc: *Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm" <
> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN84 CROP
>
>
>
> Hi Andrea,
>
>
>
> Have we confirmed Atif is not currently in an ALAC/At-Large position? If
> he is not, my vote is for him as well.
>
>
>
> Cordially,
>
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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> Em ter., 2 de set. de 2025 às 10:45, Andrea Glandon <
> andrea.glandon at icann.org> escreveu:
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I have confirmed that Adarsh BU is in India and therefore not qualified
> for this CROP slot.
>
>
>
> *From: *NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> on behalf of Andrea
> Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
> *Date: *Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 08:10
> *To: *Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: ICANN84 CROP
>
>
>
> Also, Mohamad is in Sweden according to his membership information.
>
>
>
> *From: *Amin Hacha <aminhacha at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, August 28, 2025 at 11:10
> *To: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
> *Cc: *"Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCUC-EC] ICANN84 CROP
>
>
>
> Hi Andrea,
> Thank you for the update.
> From Adarsh Bu’s LinkedIn profile, it looks like he is based in Hyderabad,
> India—unless he has recently moved to Europe. Would you mind sending him an
> email to confirm? I guess that we must ask the same for Mohamad Atief.
>
> Also, could you please remind us of the deadline for deciding about the
> name.
> Best ,
>
> Amin
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> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 4:40 PM Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
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> Hello all,
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> Please find below the response document for the ICANN84 CROP slot. Please
> note that Adarsh BU appears to be in India.
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