[NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Google Doc-Operating Procedures
Amin Hacha
aminhacha at gmail.com
Fri Mar 28 04:19:48 CET 2025
Thanks, Andrea, for your attention.
Yes, I am aware of the two representatives nominated to the NCSG PC. What I
am suggesting is that, in the Operating Procedures (OP), we may need to
revise the description of the NCUC PC to clarify that these two
representatives would lead the NCUC PC/ or form it to keep the NCUC members
updated. ( or something like that).
Dear @Namra Naseer <fr.namra at gmail.com> this is why I mentioned that I am
not well-versed in drafting text with legal precision, which is why I
preferred to present my questions and suggestions here. I was not referring
to leadership in a broader sense, and of course, I recognize your important
role in this matter.
Best regards,
Amin
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 9:45 PM Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
wrote:
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> Just to note. The NCUC already has 2 PC members on the NCSG PC. Michaela
> Shapiro and Peterking Quaye are the NCUC representatives on the NCSG PC.
> You can find the members of the NCSG PC here
> <https://icann-community.atlassian.net/wiki/x/iZnyBg>.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Andrea
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> on behalf of Amin Hacha <
> aminhacha at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Thursday, March 27, 2025 at 12:04
> *To: *Namra Naseer <fr.namra at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *"Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCUC-EC] Google Doc-Operating Procedures
>
>
>
> Dear All,
>
> Regarding the wording and structuring of the text, I believe Pedro, as a
> lawyer, is best suited to ensure the correct phrasing, given the importance
> of accuracy in this matter.
>
> I have several questions and a suggestion:
> *NCUC Policy Committee (PC):*
>
> To my knowledge, an NCUC PC has not been formed before, as the NCSG PC has
> been effectively handling policy matters. I propose exploring the
> possibility of establishing an NCUC PC within the NCSG PC. For instance, we
> could nominate 2-3 representatives from NCUC to participate in the NCSG PC.
> This would enable NCUC members to collaborate more closely with these
> representatives, receive official updates, and at the same time, support
> the work of the NCSG PC.
> I understand that this idea may need further refinement, but I believe it
> is worth considering.
> *Chair Term and Re-election Discussion:*
>
> Last year, before the election, there was a discussion about the chair's
> term length, the number of times a chair can be re-elected, and the
> possibility of extending the term to two years instead of one. My question
> is: Should this topic be addressed within the *NCUC Operating Procedures*?
> I did not find any reference to it in the document. Or should this issue be
> discussed separately at a later stage?
> *Call for Member Review of the Operating Procedures (OP):*
>
> I believe that the version of the OP to share for member review should not
> be the current draft we are working on. Instead, it would be better to
> share a finalized draft after incorporating corrections and modifications.
>
> I look forward to your thoughts.
>
> Regards,
> Amin
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 4:54 PM Namra Naseer <fr.namra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> We can do that!
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 9:03 AM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Should we already open the call for interested members to review the OP?
>
>
>
> Cordially,
>
>
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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> Em qui., 27 de mar. de 2025 às 05:14, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
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>
> Please do
>
>
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> On Thu, 27 Mar 2025, 2:50 am Namra Naseer, <fr.namra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I can work on it with Pedro, will need a few days though!
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2025 at 4:30 AM Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Pedro,
>
> Is it ok for you and Namra to take lead on this with the support of
> Andrea.
>
>
>
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>
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>
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> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025, 1:22 am Pedro de Perdigão Lana, <
> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Wisdom!
>
>
>
> Thanks for the reminder. Just added my considerations, and incorporated
> the procedures suggested in the Work Plan. I think only Section XI onwards
> does not have any suggestions for changes, so I believe that after next
> week we can start the procedures to involve the community, listed in
> Section XV of our Operating Procedures:
>
> 1. Choosing a rapporteur (which can be from the EC or external) - I'd
> candidate myself to do that, but would be glad to have someone else from
> the community to help this effort.
> 2. Creating a specific mail list to review the OP, open to members who
> want to be part of the task force
> 3. *Asking the community if they believe another part (from Section XI
> forward) should be reviewed, so as to enlarge the scope of the work.* *(this
> is not formally part of the procedures, but I think it wouldn't hurt to
> ask)*
> 4. Have at least one or two meetings about the review (the 30-day
> period for the rapporteur can encompass the time of those meetings)
> 5. Opening a 30-day period of EC review
> 6. Open a 15-day period of public comment for NCUC members
> 7. Final EC review during a period of 15 days
>
> First, however, I think we can format the doc to be more friendly to
> reading and edits - it is a bit disformatted right now (but this is not a
> problem to us in this phase) and I can't edit directly, so I wasn't able to
> do that formatting effort during my comments right now.
>
>
>
> Cordially,
>
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>
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> Em dom., 23 de mar. de 2025 às 20:12, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> Dear Pedro, all,
> A quick reminder that today is March 23, 2025. I encourage everyone to
> review the operating procedures and provide any suggestions. I will follow
> up on this tomorrow to outline the next steps.
>
> *Wisdom Donkor* (CASP+, CISM, CEH Certified,)
>
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>
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>
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> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 9:51 PM Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> That should be fine. Take the time you need to sort things out, and let's
> reconvene on 23 March. I should have reminded everyone during ICANN 82.
>
>
>
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>
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> On Mon, Mar 17, 2025 at 9:38 PM Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
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> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> Sorry, I'll need an extra few days - can we postpone our deadline to
> either the 21st or the 23rd of this month? (which means this Friday or
> sunday)
>
>
>
> Cordially,
>
>
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>
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> Em qui., 27 de fev. de 2025 às 20:06, Wisdom Donkor <wisdom.dk at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> Dear Namra, all
>
> Thank you for your observation.
> We have until March 16, 2025, to submit your suggestion.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
>
>
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>
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>
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> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 5:57 AM Namra Naseer <fr.namra at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing this, Andrea. Do we have a deadline for this?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 12:53 PM Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> On behalf of Wisdom I am sending out this Google doc with the NCUC
> Operating Procedures. Wisdom would like everyone to take a look and suggest
> any changes. One item that did come up is the early need to submit ICANN
> funded traveler names. For example, Wisdom needed to submit names for
> ICANN82 before he actually took over as chair. Also, the names were due
> before the NCSG EC representatives were changed for this year. Please look
> through and make any suggestions. Please also take a look at section XV
> which discusses how to review and develop operating procedures.
>
>
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> Thanks!
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