[NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Possible collaboration - Internet fragmentation briefing series

Bruna Martins dos Santos bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
Tue Jan 9 02:11:49 CET 2024


Thanks for the reply, Ben.

I understand NCUC has some level of independence for setting up the topics
around the Issues Forum. At the opportunity I must also take some time to
explain why Julf and I thought it would be a good idea:

Internet Fragmentation, as you might know, has been a very active topic in
the past couple of years. Especially since the UNSG decided to mention it
as one of the main discussions to be developed under the GDC framework.

Picking up on that, spaces like ICANN and the IGF decided to dive
themselves and their communities further into the topic as a
diagnose-making exercise. And this resulted in the plenary session ICANN
hosted back in Malaysia, as well as a lot of debates within the IGF spaces
too. And in most of such conversations the main conclusion was that talking
about fragmentation could be something that reminds the broader IG
community about the relevance of fostering coordination between not only
stakeholders but also technical organisations such as ICANN, ISOC, the IETF
and so on. All of this became even more relevant when - more recently - the
Global Digital Compact failed to acknowledge the technical community as one
stakeholder and with that ignoring a lot of the WSIS and Tunis Agenda
advancements.

Our main goal with such a proposal for NCUC was for your issues forum to
discuss a topic that’s extremely pressing and has been highlighted as both
ICANN Board and CEOs priorities in the past months.

I’d say that I respect your decision but I happen to think this refusal is
a bit sad as the conversation had potential and could even serve as a
bridge to attract new members to our groups.


Kind regards,



*Bruna Martins dos Santos *

Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <http://digitalaction.co>

German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von
Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>

Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>

Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
bruna.martinsantos
Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com


Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com> schrieb am Mo. 8. Jan. 2024 um
20:12:

> Dear Bruna,
> Good day to you, and  Happy New Year.
> I had proposed 30 mins because we only had 75 mins and as it appears. The
> slot we got is also a shortfall from what your session requested,
>
> I believe the NCUC Issue forum can't be of use to the group as I had
> mentioned to Julf earlier.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Benjamin
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 10:49 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Heya, Julf and Ben,
>>
>> Good to hear that NCUC is willing to accommodate this discussion, but in
>> order to move forward we would need to know how much time would NCUC be
>> willing to allocate to us. And since its not a simple discussion, I'd say
>> that 30 min or something around that won't really cut it as the session's
>> goal was to present the issue and have a proper discussion w/ community.
>>
>> Also, it's a NCSG and Global partners Digital initiative, as part of a
>> joint capacity building effort we would like to organize with our
>> community. You know pretty well how meeting's requests go around ICANN and
>> that its not really possible for "their team to get their session" since
>> requests for meetings and rooms need to come from community groups.
>>
>> In the hopes of helping, I have crafted this session description to share
>> with you. Apologies for not sharing it on friday, the deadline was a bit
>> short without any previous warning. Here's the link:
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/10n0yAwRF4j9n4IuaVOuAkofFEsVyG-aiI8mWLnYt-bs/edit
>>
>> Best,
>> Bruna
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 8:21 PM Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Julf,
>>> Thank you for your email.
>>>
>>> My response was just to share that NCUC was willing to accommodate the
>>> Global Partners within our routine Issue Forum, however, if that is
>>> not possible. It may be a good idea for the team to get their session.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Benjamin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 4:42 PM Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Benjamin,
>>>>
>>>> As originally planned, the plenary session for ICANN79 was supposed to
>>>> be 1h30. Not sure how much shorter it can be made.
>>>>
>>>>         Julf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/01/2024 11:21, Benjamin Akinmoyeje wrote:
>>>> > Dear Julf and Bruna,
>>>> > Happy New Year, and I hope you enjoyed your holidays.
>>>> >
>>>> > We plan to discuss the session on Monday in our EC meeting, as stated
>>>> by
>>>> > Pedro.
>>>> > However, we need some quick inputs.
>>>> >
>>>> > We have 75 minutes reserved for the NCUC Issue Forum; how long would
>>>> the
>>>> > Internet Fragmentation briefing take?
>>>> >
>>>> > Please provide the time and succinct description for us to see how we
>>>> > can merge the session. Andrea requires that we finalize the
>>>> description
>>>> > for the session today.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Kind regards,
>>>> > Benjamin
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 7:29 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     Hey all, yes exactly!
>>>> >
>>>> >     We will still organize one or two webinars prior to ICANN79 and
>>>> then
>>>> >     had a plan for a  plenary session that wasn’t much attractive in
>>>> the
>>>> >     eyes of other chairs. Our proposal, therefore, would be to
>>>> transform
>>>> >     the plenary into the issues forum !
>>>> >
>>>> >     Best,
>>>> >     Bruna
>>>> >
>>>> >     */Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>> >     /*
>>>> >
>>>> >     Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <
>>>> http://digitalaction.co>
>>>> >
>>>> >     German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) |
>>>> >     Alexander von Humboldt Foundation <
>>>> https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>>> >
>>>> >     Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <
>>>> https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>>>> >     Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus <
>>>> https://igcaucus.org/>
>>>> >
>>>> >     Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>>>> >     bruna.martinsantos
>>>> >     Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >     Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>> schrieb
>>>> am
>>>> >     Mi. 20. Dez. 2023 um 17:36:
>>>> >
>>>> >         As far as I know (but Bruna can clarify and correct me if I am
>>>> >         wrong),
>>>> >         nothing has been nailed down yet, but the preliminary plan was
>>>> >         to do
>>>> >         part 1 as a webinar before ICANN79, and then 2 at ICANN79.
>>>> >
>>>> >                  Julf
>>>> >
>>>> >         On 20/12/2023 11:24, Pedro de Perdigão Lana wrote:
>>>> >          > Hi,
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > I have a question here: Is the proposal about the Plenary
>>>> >         Session
>>>> >          > (Output 2) being modified to our Issues Forum, or they are
>>>> >         doing Output
>>>> >          > 1 with us and, also during ICANN 79, another session on
>>>> Internet
>>>> >          > Fragmentation?
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > Cordially,
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>>> >          > Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/
>>>> >         <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>>, GEDAI/UFPR
>>>> >          > <https://www.gedai.com.br/ <https://www.gedai.com.br/>>
>>>> >         Researcher
>>>> >          > PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>>> >          > Board Member @ CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/
>>>> >         <https://br.creativecommons.net/>>, ISOC BR
>>>> >          > <https://isoc.org.br/ <https://isoc.org.br/>> and IODA
>>>> >         <https://ioda.org.br/ <https://ioda.org.br/>>
>>>> >          > This message is restricted to the sender and recipient(s).
>>>> If
>>>> >         received
>>>> >          > by mistake, please reply informing it.
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          > Em qua., 20 de dez. de 2023 às 11:57, Johan Helsingius
>>>> >         <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>>>> >          > <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>> escreveu:
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> >          >     Subject:        Re: [Ext] Re: Possible collaboration -
>>>> >         Internet
>>>> >          >     fragmentation
>>>> >          >     briefing series
>>>> >          >     Date:   Tue, 28 Nov 2023 23:22:38 +0000
>>>> >          >     From:   Michaela Nakayama Shapiro
>>>> >         <michaela at gp-digital.org <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org>
>>>> >          >     <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org
>>>> >         <mailto:michaela at gp-digital.org>>>
>>>> >          >     To:     Bruna Martins dos Santos <
>>>> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>>> >         <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>>> >          >     <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>>> >         <mailto:bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>>>
>>>> >          >     CC:     Daniela Schnidrig <daniela at gp-digital.org
>>>> >         <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org>
>>>> >          >     <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org
>>>> >         <mailto:daniela at gp-digital.org>>>, Sheetal Kumar
>>>> >          >     <sheetal at gp-digital.org <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> >
>>>> >         <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org
>>>> >         <mailto:sheetal at gp-digital.org>>>, Keerti
>>>> >          >     Rajagopalan <keerti at gp-digital.org
>>>> >         <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org> <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org
>>>> >         <mailto:keerti at gp-digital.org>>>,
>>>> >          >     Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>>>> >         <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>, Andrea
>>>> Glandon
>>>> >          >     <andrea.glandon at icann.org
>>>> >         <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>>> >         <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org
>>>> >         <mailto:andrea.glandon at icann.org>>>, Adam
>>>> >          >     Peake <adam.peake at icann.org <mailto:
>>>> adam.peake at icann.org>
>>>> >         <mailto:adam.peake at icann.org <mailto:adam.peake at icann.org>>>
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     Hi Bruna,
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     As discussed on our recent call, we have put together a
>>>> >         more detailed
>>>> >          >     version of the concept note for the briefing series
>>>> >         (accessible here
>>>> >          >
>>>> >           <
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> <
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>> <
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> <
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/18M7cjAiGBhOHOEDR_KZzFE5Gr1XA4meRUBUxGo3oaug/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> >>>
>>>> >          >     and attached). The concept note now includes additional
>>>> >         context on
>>>> >          >     internet fragmentation as it relates to ICANN's mandate
>>>> >         on the basis of
>>>> >          >     recent trends and the 2022 plenary on the topic.
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     Based on our discussion and in light of the upcoming
>>>> >         production
>>>> >          >     planning
>>>> >          >     call, we have included a timeline for finalising the
>>>> >         concept note in a
>>>> >          >     table with roles and responsibilities across our teams
>>>> >         (see p.6). We
>>>> >          >     wanted to ask whether it would be possible for you and
>>>> >         the ICANN
>>>> >          >     team to
>>>> >          >     _review and share any feedback with us by EOW (1
>>>> >         December)?_ This would
>>>> >          >     be to ensure we have enough time to integrate any
>>>> >         feedback and
>>>> >          >     circulate
>>>> >          >     an updated draft to you by early next week to be
>>>> >         finalised by 6
>>>> >          >     December.
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     We also wanted to check whether there have been any
>>>> >         updates on the
>>>> >          >     deadlines for suggesting plenaries for San Juan?
>>>> >         Additionally, should
>>>> >          >     you have a sense of whether other parts of the
>>>> community
>>>> >         would be
>>>> >          >     willing to support a plenary like this that would be
>>>> very
>>>> >         helpful to
>>>> >          >     know for finalising the concept note.
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     Please let us know if you have any questions. Looking
>>>> >         forward to
>>>> >          >     hearing
>>>> >          >     from you soon!
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     Best,
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     Michaela
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     --
>>>> >          >     *
>>>> >          >     *
>>>> >          >     *Michaela Nakayama Shapiro*
>>>> >          >     Officer, Advocacy & Engagement | GLOBAL PARTNERS
>>>> DIGITAL
>>>> >          >     T: +44 (0)7742 758019 | Time zone: GMT+1 |
>>>> gp-digital.org
>>>> >         <http://gp-digital.org>
>>>> >          >     <http://gp-digital.org <http://gp-digital.org>>
>>>> >          >     <http://gp-digital.org/ <http://gp-digital.org/>
>>>> >         <http://gp-digital.org/ <http://gp-digital.org/>>>
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     ---
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >
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>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >     On Tue, 21 Nov 2023 at 11:35, Johan Helsingius
>>>> >         <julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>>>> >          >     <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>
>>>> >          >     <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>
>>>> >         <mailto:julf at julf.com <mailto:julf at julf.com>>>> wrote:
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >           On 21/11/2023 11:55, Daniela Schnidrig wrote:
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >            >   * We agreed that Bruna and Julf would review
>>>> >         deadlines for
>>>> >          >           suggesting
>>>> >          >            >     a plenary session for San Juan and circle
>>>> >         back this week to
>>>> >          >            >     ascertain whether it's feasible.
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >           On that point, it might still be possible. The
>>>> >         plenary session
>>>> >          >     contents
>>>> >          >           will be discussed at the production planning call
>>>> >         on December
>>>> >          >     6. For
>>>> >          >           that we should have a well-prepared proposal.
>>>> >          >
>>>> >          >                    Julf
>>>> >          >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <http://digitalaction.co>
>>
>> German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander
>> von Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
>>
>> Member | Coalizão Direitos na Rede <https://direitosnarede.org.br/>
>> Co-Coordinator | Internet Governance Caucus  <https://igcaucus.org/>
>>
>> Twitter: @boomartins <https://twitter.com/boomartins> // Skype:
>> bruna.martinsantos
>> Email: bruna.mrtns at gmail.com
>>
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