[NCUC-EC] ncuc.org seems to be down

Pedro de Perdigão Lana pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com
Thu Feb 8 15:28:54 CET 2024


Thanks for all the info, Tapani! @Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com>
and other EC members, maybe this is a good agenda topic (who else to add)
to discuss in our next meeting;

Cordially,

*Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
<https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher
PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
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Em qui., 8 de fev. de 2024 às 07:25, Tapani Tarvainen <
ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info> escreveu:

> Hi Bruna,
>
> As Herman observed notices for the website hosting do not go
> to same people as domain for renewals. You should still get
> the latter, but they only come once a year.
>
> Tapani
>
> On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 10:08:55AM +0100, Bruna Martins dos Santos (
> bruna.mrtns at gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> > Hey all,
> >
> > Just flagging that i havent received *any* updates on the expiration or
> any
> > sort of notice on the need to change the payment information.
> >
> > Best,
> > B
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 8, 2024 at 10:05 AM Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks, Tapani,
> > >
> > > Hi Brenden. Thanks for looking after the system for us! Please let us
> know
> > > how can we help in any way.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: 'Tapani Tarvainen' <ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info>
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 4:01 AM
> > > To: Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com>
> > > Cc: 'Pedro de Perdigão Lana' <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>;
> 'Benjamin
> > > Akinmoyeje' <benakin at gmail.com>; 'Johan Helsingius' <julf at julf.com>;
> > > 'Exec. Comm' <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>; 'Brenden Kuerbis' <
> > > bkuerbis at internetgovernance.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] ncuc.org seems to be down
> > >
> > > Hi Herman,
> > >
> > > Good point: it was indeed the web hosting, not the domain, and notice
> was
> > > presumably sent to Brenden only.
> > >
> > > Gandi does allow adding additional recipients for the accounts as well,
> > > however that has to be done separately. It might be a good idea to add
> a
> > > few extra addresses there.
> > >
> > > As for how the payments are handled, perhaps Brenden could explain it
> in
> > > mode detail.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Tapani
> > >
> > > On Thu, Feb 08, 2024 at 03:08:32AM -0500, Ken Herman (ken at kherman.com)
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Tapani. This is very helpful.
> > > >
> > > > I am unclear, however, as to where the issue resided. Was it the web
> > > hosting contract or the domain name registration? I presume it was the
> web
> > > hosting, then probably the notices would have gone only to the account
> > > holder at Gandi. Also, it would be good to know how this is being paid
> for,
> > > as in whose credit card is being used for this.
> > > >
> > > > The more information we have as the EC, the better decisions we can
> make
> > > about dealing with these issues as they arise.
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tapani Tarvainen <ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2024 2:28 AM
> > > > To: Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
> > > > Cc: Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com>; Ken Herman
> > > > <ken at kherman.com>; Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com>; Exec. Comm
> > > > <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>; Brenden Kuerbis
> > > > <bkuerbis at internetgovernance.org>
> > > > Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] ncuc.org seems to be down
> > > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > First of all, the problem has now been fixed and the site is up
> again,
> > > so the situation is no longer urgent.
> > > >
> > > > As for the notifications, at the moment they go to:
> > > >
> > > > (1) Brenden, who holds the registrant email and manages the payments
> > > > in practice - the problem was a typo in credit card change;
> > > >
> > > > (2) Bruna, who is the admin contact as former NCUC Chair, perhaps
> that
> > > > should be changed; and
> > > >
> > > > (3) Milton, who is the billing contact as the treasurer of NCUC.
> > > >
> > > > Also, the technical contact is David Cake (but I don't think he gets
> > > billing-related notifications). I don't know how much he's been
> involved of
> > > late, perhaps someone else would be better for that role.
> > > >
> > > > In addition I have been given effective administrative access by
> > > Brenden, so I can help with things at Gandi, but I'm just a backup
> there, I
> > > don't get notifications &c.
> > > >
> > > > Tapani
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 09:17:57PM -0300, Pedro de Perdigão Lana (
> > > pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In what e-mail are we receiving notifications from Gandi?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cordially,
> > > > >
> > > > > *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
> > > > > Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
> > > > > <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM
> in
> > > > > Business Law (UCoimbra) Board Member @ CC Brasil
> > > > > <https://br.creativecommons.net/>, ISOC BR <https://isoc.org.br/>
> > > > > and IODA <https://ioda.org.br/> This message is restricted to the
> > > > > sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please reply
> > > informing it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Em qua., 7 de fev. de 2024 às 20:03, Benjamin Akinmoyeje
> > > > > <benakin at gmail.com>
> > > > > escreveu:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Tapani,
> > > > > > Please, how do we get the invoice?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > > > Benjamin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 10:12 PM Tapani Tarvainen <
> > > > > > ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> It's down because its renewal hasn't been paid. Gandi warns
> it'll
> > > > > >> be soon permanently deleted, so I'd suggest getting it paid
> ASAP.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Tapani
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 12:44:37PM -0500, Ken Herman
> > > > > >> (ken at kherman.com)
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > The e-team looks after it.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I believe that Tapani is involved.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Ken
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > >> > From: NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> On Behalf Of
> > > > > >> > Johan
> > > > > >> Helsingius via NCUC-EC
> > > > > >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2024 12:32 PM
> > > > > >> > To: Pedro de Perdigão Lana <pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com>
> > > > > >> > Cc: Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] ncuc.org seems to be down
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > I have no idea - it is hosted by the French domain and hosting
> > > > > >> > company
> > > > > >> Gandi (https://www.gandi.net).
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >       Julf
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On 07/02/2024 18:25, Pedro de Perdigão Lana wrote:
> > > > > >> > > Who is in charge of our hosting? Is it something provided
> > > > > >> > > within ICANN, a hired service or managed directly by
> members?
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Cordially,
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
> > > > > >> > > Lawyer <https://www.sistemafiep.org.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR
> > > > > >> > > <https://www.gedai.com.br/> Researcher PhD Candidate
> (UFPR),
> > > > > >> > > LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra) Board Member @ CC Brasil
> > > > > >> > > <https://br.creativecommons.net/>, ISOC BR
> > > > > >> > > <https://isoc.org.br/>
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> > > IODA <https://ioda.org.br/> This message is restricted to
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> > > > > >> > > sender and recipient(s). If received by mistake, please
> reply
> > > informing it.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Em qua., 7 de fev. de 2024 às 14:11, Johan Helsingius via
> > > > > >> > > NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org <mailto:
> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>>
> > > escreveu:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >     https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/ncuc.org.html
> > > > > >> > >     <https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/ncuc.org.html>
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >              Julf
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> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tapani Tarvainen
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Tapani Tarvainen
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> >
> > *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
> >
> > Global Campaigns Manager | Digital Action <http://digitalaction.co>
> >
> > German Chancellor Fellow 21' (Bundeskanzler-Stipendiatin) | Alexander von
> > Humboldt Foundation <https://www.humboldt-foundation.de/>
> >
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> >
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>
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