[NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Draft Agenda | NCUC EC Meeting | Monday, 12 August 2024

Wed Aug 7 23:55:28 CEST 2024

Just saw Andrea's message (sent before mine) in another mail chain saying
that we should use the list - sorry for repeating it, Andrea.

Cordially,

*Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
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Researcher
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Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 às 18:03, Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> escreveu:

> Hi Ines,
>
> Sorry, I misunderstood the issue - I thought that the discussion was about
> the European region being a part of crop possibilities or not.
>
> If the question is whether AF countries should be included or not (while
> also excluding other AP countries external to the Middle East region), the
> procedures seem to directly define that the countries to be taken into
> account for the crop slot should be under a closed pre-defined list of
> countries:
>
> For CROP purposes, the list of GSE countries and geographic regions
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/14seX2l_Gq5rE97gbr38i1EuUbKRZ5GHl/view?usp=sharing>
> *will* be used to determine the applicable region that a meeting/event
> falls under.
> (...)
> The “relevant region” for an eligible GNSO Constituency means that the
> trip must be allocated to a traveler residing in one of the countries
> within the GSE-designated region where the event/meeting in question is
> taking place.
>
> Which would mean that the list is:
>
> Bahrain
> Comoros
> Djibouti
> Egypt
> Iran, Islamic Republic of
> Iraq
> Jordan
> Kuwait
> Lebanon
> Libya
> Mauritania
> Morocco
> Oman
> Pakistan
> Palestine
> Qatar
> Saudi Arabia
> Somalia
> Sudan
> Syrian Arab Republic
> Tunisia
> Türkiye
> United Arab Emirates
> Yemen
> Afghanistan
> Algeria
>
> I may have missed something in other part of the rules, but this seems to
> be a direct orientation on what we should do.
>
> Cordially,
>
> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
> Researcher
> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
> Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) <https://www.ncuc.org/>, ISOC BR
> <https://isoc.org.br/>, CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/> and
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> Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 às 16:37, Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
>> Hi Pedro
>>
>> Crop procedures and countries are listed. This time some are in AP and
>> others in AF.
>> I do not see why we should bend the rules and exclude the countries that
>> are having this Crop opportunity fir the furst time in a long time.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 20:12 Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
>> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Considering that our doubt was between EU and AP, and everything we
>>> searched until now points (even if slightly) to AP, I think we can agree
>>> that this would be the most adequate option from the CROP slot.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>>
>>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>>> Researcher
>>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>>> Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) <https://www.ncuc.org/>, ISOC BR
>>> <https://isoc.org.br/>, CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/> and
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>>> Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 às 16:03, Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Indeed, so it’s very confusing!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2024 2:07 PM
>>>> *To:* Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com>
>>>> *Cc:* Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>; Mili Semlani <
>>>> milisemlani at gmail.com>; Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Draft Agenda | NCUC EC Meeting |
>>>> Monday, 12 August 2024
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ken the Middle East region in the crop classification includes some
>>>> AP and some AF countries.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 14:20 Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Andrea, for the link to the FY25 CROP materials. I tried to
>>>> find it on the ICANN.org website but couldn’t. Perhaps b/c it is now a
>>>> google doc and not on the site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, we still have this problem that the ICANN public meetings use a
>>>> different geographic region (https://meetings.icann.org/en/regions)
>>>> from the outreach. We in the NCUC use the public meetings arrangement for
>>>> the EC. My opinion is that for the purposes of the CROP, which is mainly
>>>> utilized to bring regional constituents to the public meetings, GSE should
>>>> allow for the meeting geographic arrangements for CROP applications. Since
>>>> ICANN 81 is listed as being in the AP region, then I do not see why we
>>>> cannot utilize the CROP for applications from that region. The EC may wish
>>>> to preferentially consider applications from the sub-region, but it should
>>>> have the freedom to select from the Geographic region of the meeting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> *On Behalf Of *Andrea
>>>> Glandon
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2024 8:44 AM
>>>> *To:* Mili Semlani <milisemlani at gmail.com>; Hfaiedh Ines <
>>>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>>> *Cc:* Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Draft Agenda | NCUC EC Meeting |
>>>> Monday, 12 August 2024
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, good catch! That is exactly where you should be looking for the
>>>> region. Apologies for giving you incorrect information.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here is a link to the CROP procedures and guidelines:
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BzWzXHLT56boZuouFmnbQ5O8JPcFBCRRiw7QATL4pt4/edit#heading=h.4zj06v4hbckd
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Mili Semlani <milisemlani at gmail.com>
>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, August 7, 2024 at 05:32
>>>> *To: *Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>>> *Cc: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>, "Exec. Comm" <
>>>> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ext] Re: [NCUC-EC] Draft Agenda | NCUC EC Meeting |
>>>> Monday, 12 August 2024
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good catch Ines.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> With gratitude
>>>>
>>>> *Mili Semlani*
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 at 11:21, Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear Andrea,
>>>>
>>>> Can you please kindly double-check if the icann region is the same as
>>>> the crop region?
>>>>
>>>> On the CROP page,  Turkey is part of the Middle East. I joigned a
>>>> screenshot from the landing page.
>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Program
>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024, 23:08 Mili Semlani <milisemlani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> With gratitude
>>>>
>>>> *Mili Semlani*
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 22:29, Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Mili,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ICANN81 is listed as AP: https://meetings.icann.org/en/calendar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Andrea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *Mili Semlani <milisemlani at gmail.com>
>>>> *Date: *Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 16:00
>>>> *To: *Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>>> *Cc: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>, "Exec. Comm" <
>>>> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>>> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCUC-EC] Draft Agenda | NCUC EC Meeting |
>>>> Monday, 12 August 2024
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> @Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org> can you also confirm if
>>>> ICANN81 is an APAC meeting or an EU meeting? So we can work on the CROP
>>>> application accordingly.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> With gratitude
>>>>
>>>> *Mili Semlani*
>>>>
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>>>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 21:33, Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Andrea well-received.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024, 15:08 Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello EC,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Please find below a link to a draft agenda for the NCUC EC meeting on
>>>> Monday, 12 August 2024. I have added some items. Please adjust/add as
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16owIM6J61c1dvWDbhjGNlZe_7w0tcDpL6NrtwwF_Eyo/edit?usp=sharing
>>>> [docs.google.com]
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> *Andrea Glandon*
>>>>
>>>> Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator
>>>>
>>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>>
>>>> *Skype ID:*  acglandon76
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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