[NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Draft Agenda | NCUC EC Meeting | Monday, 12 August 2024

Wed Aug 7 23:03:13 CEST 2024

Hi Ines,

Sorry, I misunderstood the issue - I thought that the discussion was about
the European region being a part of crop possibilities or not.

If the question is whether AF countries should be included or not (while
also excluding other AP countries external to the Middle East region), the
procedures seem to directly define that the countries to be taken into
account for the crop slot should be under a closed pre-defined list of
countries:

For CROP purposes, the list of GSE countries and geographic regions
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/14seX2l_Gq5rE97gbr38i1EuUbKRZ5GHl/view?usp=sharing>
*will* be used to determine the applicable region that a meeting/event
falls under.
(...)
The “relevant region” for an eligible GNSO Constituency means that the trip
must be allocated to a traveler residing in one of the countries within the
GSE-designated region where the event/meeting in question is taking place.

Which would mean that the list is:

Bahrain
Comoros
Djibouti
Egypt
Iran, Islamic Republic of
Iraq
Jordan
Kuwait
Lebanon
Libya
Mauritania
Morocco
Oman
Pakistan
Palestine
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Somalia
Sudan
Syrian Arab Republic
Tunisia
Türkiye
United Arab Emirates
Yemen
Afghanistan
Algeria

I may have missed something in other part of the rules, but this seems to
be a direct orientation on what we should do.

Cordially,

*Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
Researcher
PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
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Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 às 16:37, Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
escreveu:

> Hi Pedro
>
> Crop procedures and countries are listed. This time some are in AP and
> others in AF.
> I do not see why we should bend the rules and exclude the countries that
> are having this Crop opportunity fir the furst time in a long time.
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 20:12 Pedro de Perdigão Lana <
> pedrodeperdigaolana at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Considering that our doubt was between EU and AP, and everything we
>> searched until now points (even if slightly) to AP, I think we can agree
>> that this would be the most adequate option from the CROP slot.
>>
>> Cordially,
>>
>> *Pedro de Perdigão Lana*
>> Lawyer <https://www.nic.br/>, GEDAI/UFPR <https://www.gedai.com.br/>
>> Researcher
>> PhD Candidate (UFPR), LLM in Business Law (UCoimbra)
>> Board Member @ NCUC (ICANN) <https://www.ncuc.org/>, ISOC BR
>> <https://isoc.org.br/>, CC Brasil <https://br.creativecommons.net/> and
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>>
>> Em qua., 7 de ago. de 2024 às 16:03, Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Indeed, so it’s very confusing!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2024 2:07 PM
>>> *To:* Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com>
>>> *Cc:* Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>; Mili Semlani <
>>> milisemlani at gmail.com>; Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Draft Agenda | NCUC EC Meeting |
>>> Monday, 12 August 2024
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Ken the Middle East region in the crop classification includes some
>>> AP and some AF countries.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 14:20 Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, Andrea, for the link to the FY25 CROP materials. I tried to find
>>> it on the ICANN.org website but couldn’t. Perhaps b/c it is now a google
>>> doc and not on the site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, we still have this problem that the ICANN public meetings use a
>>> different geographic region (https://meetings.icann.org/en/regions)
>>> from the outreach. We in the NCUC use the public meetings arrangement for
>>> the EC. My opinion is that for the purposes of the CROP, which is mainly
>>> utilized to bring regional constituents to the public meetings, GSE should
>>> allow for the meeting geographic arrangements for CROP applications. Since
>>> ICANN 81 is listed as being in the AP region, then I do not see why we
>>> cannot utilize the CROP for applications from that region. The EC may wish
>>> to preferentially consider applications from the sub-region, but it should
>>> have the freedom to select from the Geographic region of the meeting.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> *On Behalf Of *Andrea
>>> Glandon
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 7, 2024 8:44 AM
>>> *To:* Mili Semlani <milisemlani at gmail.com>; Hfaiedh Ines <
>>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc:* Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] [Ext] Re: Draft Agenda | NCUC EC Meeting |
>>> Monday, 12 August 2024
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, good catch! That is exactly where you should be looking for the
>>> region. Apologies for giving you incorrect information.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is a link to the CROP procedures and guidelines:
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BzWzXHLT56boZuouFmnbQ5O8JPcFBCRRiw7QATL4pt4/edit#heading=h.4zj06v4hbckd
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Andrea
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Mili Semlani <milisemlani at gmail.com>
>>> *Date: *Wednesday, August 7, 2024 at 05:32
>>> *To: *Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>, "Exec. Comm" <
>>> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>> *Subject: *Re: [Ext] Re: [NCUC-EC] Draft Agenda | NCUC EC Meeting |
>>> Monday, 12 August 2024
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Good catch Ines.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> With gratitude
>>>
>>> *Mili Semlani*
>>>
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>>> On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 at 11:21, Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Andrea,
>>>
>>> Can you please kindly double-check if the icann region is the same as
>>> the crop region?
>>>
>>> On the CROP page,  Turkey is part of the Middle East. I joigned a
>>> screenshot from the landing page.
>>> https://community.icann.org/display/soacabout/Community+Regional+Outreach+Program
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024, 23:08 Mili Semlani <milisemlani at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> With gratitude
>>>
>>> *Mili Semlani*
>>>
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>>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 22:29, Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mili,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ICANN81 is listed as AP: https://meetings.icann.org/en/calendar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Kind Regards,
>>>
>>> Andrea
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *Mili Semlani <milisemlani at gmail.com>
>>> *Date: *Tuesday, August 6, 2024 at 16:00
>>> *To: *Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>> *Cc: *Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>, "Exec. Comm" <
>>> ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>> *Subject: *[Ext] Re: [NCUC-EC] Draft Agenda | NCUC EC Meeting | Monday,
>>> 12 August 2024
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> @Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org> can you also confirm if
>>> ICANN81 is an APAC meeting or an EU meeting? So we can work on the CROP
>>> application accordingly.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> With gratitude
>>>
>>> *Mili Semlani*
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>>> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 21:33, Hfaiedh Ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you Andrea well-received.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 6, 2024, 15:08 Andrea Glandon <andrea.glandon at icann.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello EC,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please find below a link to a draft agenda for the NCUC EC meeting on
>>> Monday, 12 August 2024. I have added some items. Please adjust/add as
>>> needed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/16owIM6J61c1dvWDbhjGNlZe_7w0tcDpL6NrtwwF_Eyo/edit?usp=sharing
>>> [docs.google.com]
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> *Andrea Glandon*
>>>
>>> Policy Operations Sr. Coordinator
>>>
>>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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