[NCUC-EC] FW: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip

Thu May 11 15:44:58 CEST 2023

Thank you for your acknowledgement.

I am excited that you are always willing to set  things straight and
correct things.

This is what I wrote  If I remember correctly, it was in your presence that
I approached the PIR team in ICANN76.
I stand by what I wrote because I introduced You and Mili to Paul Diaz and
his colleague  from TechSoup. I was in discussion on the sideline after an
ICANN session and left to meet the group in the presence of Tomslin and
Julf (It was a preset appointment and standing meeting.)

As I said again, I was sitting with you and Mili after an ICANN session and
I saw the PIR team and walked up to them to discuss their support for NCUC.
That is my story and I am sticking to it.😊.

Kind regards,
Benjamin

On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 3:09 PM Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the clarification, Benjamin. They are always helpful.
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> My apologies if I conveyed an incorrect view; it was to give some context
> to the other EC members as to Milton’s involvement, which wasn’t there
> before. I’m glad to hear you were involved, even though I wasn’t copied on
> the message you are sharing so really, how was I to know?
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> Also, just to set the record straight, your recollection is incorrect as I
> was most definitely NOT invited to nor did I participate in any discussion
> with the PIR team in Cancun or at any other time, with you or anyone else.
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> I agree with your hope that we can make progress on this initiative at
> today’s meeting.
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> Best regards
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> Ken
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> *From:* Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 11, 2023 7:34 AM
> *To:* Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com>
> *Cc:* Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] FW: Proposed program outline for ICANN 77
> workshoip
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> Dear Ken,
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> I appreciate your intervention but I would quickly like to correct the
> impression that Milton intervened. I actually called for the meeting to
> bring everybody on-board.  As shown in the screenshot attached below 5days
> ago.
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> The proposal was supposed to be discussed in our EC meeting in order to
> give Milton a response as he had required thereafter, however since you
> went ahead., we are here now.  I just feel it is important to put the facts
> straight.
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> As the chair I engage in multiple conversations with different
> stakeholders to get support for our community and it appears to me, once
> you are not in the conversation, it is always unclear to you. I have shared
> the outcome of PIR interactions with you and Johan also attested to it.
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> Please let me know the clarity you seek and I will try to facilitate it
> just as it has been done in the past. If I remember correctly, it was in
> your presence I approached the PIR team in ICANN76.
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> It is however not very helpful when ECs summarily jump to conclusions on
> issues such as this. It is my hope that today's EC meeting will help put
> some clarity into this discussion.
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> Kind regards,
>
> Benjamin
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> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 11:27 PM Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com> wrote:
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> Hello Fellow EC members.
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> Milton arranged a conference call this morning with Benjamin, Julf,
> Farzaneh and me, to discuss the ICANN77 events we have been planning.
> Milton intervened since he observed that we were not getting any response
> from my e-mails regarding how to move forward, and for that I am thankful.
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> Besides some discussion of the status of funding from PIR, which remains
> unclear, Milton also agreed to propose a programme for a non-commercial
> session at ICANN77, and that is what you see below. We should discuss this
> at our EC meeting tomorrow.
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>
> Ken
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> *From:* Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 10, 2023 11:02 AM
> *To:* Ken Herman <ken at kherman.com>
> *Cc:* Benjamin Akinmoyeje <benakin at gmail.com>; Farzaneh Badiei <
> farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>; Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com>
> *Subject:* Proposed program outline for ICANN 77 workshoip
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> Theme:
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> Access to DNS in the Age of Sanctions and Trade Barriers
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> This workshop will examine the way nation-state power conflicts erect
> barriers to global internet access, focusing on DNS. It would cover topics
> such as how sanctions affect the provision of DNS services, how ICANN's
> global policies and contracts intersect with foreign policy pressures, and
> how certain forms of social media regulations affect Internet access
> throughout the world. It will explore how Noncommercial stakeholders in the
> ICANN environment can address those problems.
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> Invited Speakers:
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> * Farzaneh Badiei, Digital Medusa on her sanctions work
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> * Alan Davidson or Susan Chalmers, NTIA, on U.S. OFAC and its relationship
> to ICANN
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> * Someone from ICANN legal on implementation of Workstream 2 (general OFAC
> license)
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> * Greg Nojeim from CDT
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> * Milton Mueller, GT IGP on the TikTok ban
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> * Kathleen Burke from Public Knowledge kathleen at publicknowledge.org on
> DNS access restrictions from copyright and trademark interests
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> * Invite PIR to address sanctions
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> * TWNIC on cross-strait barriers to Internet access in Asia
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> There would be 4 15-minute presentations from key speakers (Badiei,
> Davidson, ICANN, Mueller) would be followed by a roundtable discussion
> featuring:
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>    - Nojeim, CDT
>    - PIR
>    - TWNIC
>    - Public Knowledge or EFF
>    - Others?
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> Dr Milton L Mueller, Professor
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> School of Public Policy
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> Georgia Institute of Technology
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> Internet Governance Project <https://internetgovernance.org>
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