[NCUC-EC] Report from NCUC issue forum

Tue Dec 19 17:51:29 CET 2023

Dear Kathy,
Good day and I hope your week is going well.
I am coming back to you based on the question you asked me about a
month ago.

The final cost I have received for the report writing is 300 USD.

Initially, I responded that it was supposed to be a stipend, but my
understanding was that it would be cheaper for online outsourcing. I
believe I was wrong in my assumption.

I hope we can do this better in the future.

Kind regards,
Benjamin

On Sun, Nov 12, 2023 at 8:32 PM Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:

> Benjamin and All,
>
> The question is on the table: why are we paying anyone to summarize our
> work?  The Issues Forum (Parts I and II) took many, many hours of planning,
> drafting, slides, and preparation. Yet, no one in NCUC can summarize it?
> That's a traditional entry role to policy - someone summarizing current
> policy debate and finding their own views and voice for policy work.
>
> I have not gotten any answers yet: how much have we promised someone to
> write a summary and why could not one of the people paid for travel to
> ICANN78 write this summary (for free)?
>
> These are very simple questions pending since ICANN78- and I've been sent
> in circles (a waste of a volunteer's time).
>
> Benjamin, you said Mili would know; Mili, you said Benjamin will answer.
> I'm now offline.
>
> K
> On 11/9/2023 11:22 PM, Benjamin Akinmoyeje wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> I'm sorry for not getting back to you sooner.
>
> I have the expectation of the sum of 2500 USD from PIR, I am yet to
> confirm from Milton if NCUC has received the funds.
>
> Just like the last event, I only get notified of the funds and Milton is
> fully in charge of its management. For ICANN78 expenditure, we expect some
> invoices for the report and meals served at the Issue forum.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> Benjamin
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 4:30 AM Mili <milisemlani at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Kathy
>>
>>   Thanks for your questions.
>>
>> I would direct these questions to @benjamin and @ Milton who will be
>> better suited to answer anything related to the finances.
>>
>> As of now the payment has not been made. Once the final draft is shared,
>> we will receive the invoice.
>>
>> Once the invoice is honored, NCUC/SG will own all rights to the report.
>> As a standard in the publishing world. We (by we I mean NCUC/SG here) are
>> free to share, publish and circulate it as we please.
>>
>> I am merely carrying this facilitation as an NCUC volunteer in my
>> capacity as the EC member.
>>
>> --
>> With gratitude
>> Mili Semlani
>> Journalist & Engagement Manager
>> Founder @ Youth4IG <http://youth4ig.asia/>
>> Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/> | LinkedIn
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/>
>>
>> On Nov 3, 2023, at 01:49, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech>
>> <kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Tx Mili, thanks for your response and agreed that it takes a lot of work
>> to make a forum happen.
>>
>> Let me follow-up with two quick questions. Could you share the source of
>> the funds (was this PIR money?) and how much you paid?  Also who owns the
>> report this group produced?  These seem like fair questions, but if there
>> is a concern about transparency, please let me know.
>>
>> Best regards, Kathy
>> On 11/2/2023 10:40 AM, Mili wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kathy
>>   As mentioned in my earlier emails too, we hired a rapporteur (a writing
>> agency that has writers) to prepare this report for us.
>>
>> For everyone’s clarity, I did not write the report. I am merely
>> facilitating it as we divided the various tasks for the issue forum and I
>> took over the task of looking for a rapporteur and co ordinating this.
>>
>> And yes everyone put in a lot of work to make the issue forum happen and
>> it’s great to see the collective result of all our efforts.
>>
>>
>> --
>> With gratitude
>> Mili Semlani
>> Journalist & Engagement Manager
>> Founder @ Youth4IG <http://youth4ig.asia/>
>> Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/> | LinkedIn
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/>
>>
>> On Nov 2, 2023, at 19:56, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech>
>> <kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi Mili,
>>
>> A lot of people spent a lot of time preparing for this issues forum (as
>> well as the first).  Can I ask how much you got paid to write this report
>> (and how  long it took)?
>>
>> Best and thanks,
>>
>> Kathy
>>
>> On 11/2/2023 2:13 AM, Mili Semlani wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>   As a part of the 20th anniversary celebration, we organised an issue
>> forum at ICANN78. It was decided that we hire a rapporteur to prepare a
>> brief report of the discussion.
>>
>> I have attached the first draft of the report they have sent me. Kindly
>> take a look and let me know if it's okay (check for factual errors, if its
>> readable well and detailed enough for us).
>>
>> Can we add a link to the comparison between At large and NCSG applicant
>> support proposals (the printed version that you prepared and circulated at
>> the session) to this report? If yes, please share the link or send the
>> document as an attachment.
>>
>> Also let me know if there is any other feedback on the attached report,
>> changes, amendments etc. We ideally should share and publish it for our
>> members before the readout scheduled for Nov 6.
>>
>> --
>> With gratitude
>> *Mili Semlani*
>> Community specialist
>> Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/> | LinkedIn
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 01:59, Kathy Kleiman <kathy at dnrc.tech>
>> <kathy at dnrc.tech> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Mili,
>>>
>>> Good to see you and Hamburg, and nice to have a chance to talk. Still in
>>> catch-up mode here; I'll have things over to you  tomorrow (11/2).
>>>
>>> Also, what is a soft copy for and who is the writer?  Not sure I
>>> understand the request...
>>>
>>> Best, Kathy
>>> On 11/1/2023 11:14 AM, Mili wrote:
>>>
>>> Noted. @milton do you have any additional resources, links that point to
>>> this?
>>>
>>> @kathy maybe we can also attach the comparison between At large and NCSG
>>> applicant support proposals (the printed version that you prepared and
>>> circulated at the session). Can you also send me a soft copy for the same
>>> so I can share it with the writer to incorporate.
>>>
>>> @all of no further comments, I will send this with the below feedback
>>> for final drafting. Kindly let me know by EOD (Nov 1).
>>>
>>> --
>>> With gratitude
>>> Mili Semlani
>>> Journalist & Engagement Manager
>>> Founder @ Youth4IG <http://youth4ig.asia/>
>>> Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/> | LinkedIn
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/>
>>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2023, at 00:37, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
>>> <milton at gatech.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hello, Mili
>>>
>>> I think the report on RVCs would be improved if we could attach the
>>> framework Kathy and I developed for allowable RVCs. It could also discuss
>>> some of the “stress test” studies we discussed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* NCUC-EC <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org>
>>> <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org> *On Behalf Of *Mili Semlani
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2023 6:31 AM
>>> *To:* Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org> <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>>> *Subject:* [NCUC-EC] Report from NCUC issue forum
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>>   As a part of the 20th anniversary celebration, we organised an issue
>>> forum at ICANN78. It was decided that we hire a rapporteur to prepare a
>>> brief report of the discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have attached the first draft of the report they have sent me. Kindly
>>> take a look and let me know if it's okay (check for factual errors, if its
>>> readable well and detailed enough for us). If it's good to go and
>>> doesn't require any changes, we can furnish their invoice and they will
>>> pass the rights for us to publish this report.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> With gratitude
>>>
>>> *Mili Semlani*
>>>
>>> Community specialist
>>>
>>> Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/theuntraveller/> | LinkedIn
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/milisemlani/>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kathy Kleiman
>>> President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>>>
>>> --
>> Kathy Kleiman
>> President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>>
>> --
>> Kathy Kleiman
>> President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>>
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> Kathy Kleiman
> President, Domain Name Rights Coalition
>
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