[NCUC-EC] Travel Support for ICANN61

Sun Mar 4 15:57:58 CET 2018

Hi Ines,

I think it should be a transparent discussion, and I don't think that
your suggestion would have been unreasonable on its face - if my per
diem had been 600 USD. As it happens, it's less than half of that -
250 USD (300 USD - 50 USD in bank fees). Good luck getting 6 nights in
Puerto Rico for that - even 3 nights in that area of San Juan would be
pushing it.

But I have to ask - why are we talking about my per diem? This is not
the normal course of discussion when an EC member requests travel
support for a meeting he is heavily involved in. I don't recall this
ever coming up for previous requests - which are pro forma.

About a month ago, I sent a single email to Farzi, inquiring about my
per diem rates, as a possible way to cover my hotel - this is before I
looked into hotel costs, and before the silliness around ICANN travel
mistakenly telling me I'm covered for the entire time. For some
reason, that exchange spreads to you, and to whoever wrote that
ridiculous email to you postulating about some huge pile of cash that
I'm supposedly sitting on (Hi Ayden!). And now, suddenly, I'm also
sitting on this enormous per diem, and greedily demanding more money
from NCUC.

How about you ask me instead of trafficking in rumours?

Honestly - I've met so many good activists that used to participate in
NCUC and dropped away - and this is exactly why.

Michael

On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 5:12 AM, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am sharing for transparency purposes only.
>
>
> Le dimanche 4 mars 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a écrit :
>> Hi Ines
>> Yes
>> 1 vote for partial funding
>> There were 4 EC voting so the final decision expressed the majority of
>> votes
>> I am confused to why are you bringing back your vote. Do you wish to ask
>> the rest of EC to review decisions?
>> Thanks
>> Em 4 de mar de 2018 5:02 AM, "hfaiedh ines" <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Dear Michael, all
>>>
>>> For transparency and for the record. This was my suggestion ( in private)
>>> on Michael's travel support:
>>>
>>>
>>> About per Diem, if it is confirmed to be 600USD, I guess we can offer to
>>> cover for the nights of March 10th,11th,12th and 13th (so that he
>>> contributes to the Constituency Day) and he can cover up for the three
>>> remaining nights from his per Diem himself.
>>>
>>>
>>>  As we do not really have a confirmation of his per diem and also that I
>>> don't think it is fair to ask him to use all of his perdiem on hotel nights
>>> especially that it is CT's mistake, I think 350 USD (for the four nights)
>>> would do, so that we can 'cut the apple in half
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le lundi 26 février 2018, Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> a
>>> écrit :
>>> > Ok - thanks very much, all. I'm happy to do all of those things, of
>>> > course. I'll look into accommodations today.
>>> > Best,
>>> > Michael
>>> > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> > <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Dear Michael
>>> >>
>>> >> The EC has deliberated on your travel funding request and allocated
>>> >> the amount requested (500USD) by a majority of votes.
>>> >>
>>> >> This deliberation was guided by our Travel Policy and our Operating
>>> >> Procedures.
>>> >> https://www.ncuc.org/get-involved/travel-policy/
>>> >> https://www.ncuc.org/ncuc-operating-procedures/
>>> >>
>>> >> The final decision was made considering on your engagement with
>>> >> working groups and policy work in ICANN, which was highlighted by the
>>> >> evaluators. Your collaboration with NCUC programme at ICANN61 is also
>>> >> welcome. Please help obtain and confirm guests and audience to be in
>>> >> attendance, guide newcomers to our sessions, outreach on social media with
>>> >> #NCUC and any other tasks concerning our programme. On our work meetings, we
>>> >> hope you can be present on them and bring ideas to fulfill the tasks the EC
>>> >> has at hands. Please remember also that as all funded travelers, you should
>>> >> produce a report to be published as a blog post per our travel policy.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm sending this communication asap so you can book accomodation at
>>> >> the best price.
>>> >>
>>> >> I trust any EC can add ideas about ICANN61 if they think it is
>>> >> necessary.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you,
>>> >>
>>> >> Renata
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:07 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>> >> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Michael, I'm sorry about that.
>>> >>> ICANN really has been very restrictive on travel support lately and
>>> >>> we are getting esp. affected.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Everyone, as in other times, I'll chime in if requested advice or a
>>> >>> tiebreak is needed.
>>> >>> The way these deliberations are going to go also depend on you -
>>> >>> onlist or via email thread w/out proposer.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Please deliberate as fast as possible to ensure good use of resources
>>> >>> if allocation is approved.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> As a reminder, guidelines for your deliberation are on NCUC website
>>> >>> sections > Travel Policy and Operating Procedures.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Best,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Renata
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>> >>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Hi all,
>>> >>>> So I just had a frustrating back and forth with ICANN travel. Back
>>> >>>> on Jan 23, they sent me an email saying my hotel was covered from March 6 -
>>> >>>> 16. Now they've told me that was an error, and I'm only covered until March
>>> >>>> 10.
>>> >>>> I'd like to make a request for travel support, just for my hotel,
>>> >>>> from the 10th-16th. I'm slotted to be at the Sheraton for the initial dates,
>>> >>>> but I can certainly move to somewhere cheaper for the extra days. I see
>>> >>>> places on AirBNB available for well under $100 USD per night, so I guess
>>> >>>> under 500 USD total.
>>> >>>> In addition to the NCUC session, of course, I have a number of
>>> >>>> activities I'm supposed to be carrying out at ICANN61, including leading the
>>> >>>> CCWP session on human rights, leading a CCWG session on transparency and
>>> >>>> open data at ICANN, and participating in the RPMs working group.
>>> >>>> Fully understand if you want to move off list to deliberate.
>>> >>>> Best,
>>> >>>> Michael
>>> >>>>
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>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
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