[NCUC-EC] PIR

[Tapani Tarvainen]

Dear Farzaneh,

Thank you and my apologies for having missed that.

Tapani

On Jun 26 14:35, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> with pleasure Tapani, since I am not at all you have not seen my emails on
> NCSG mailing list nor NPOC and have not been forwarded , I draw
> your attention to the copy paste of the email I sent to NPOC EC and Joan on
> 7 May. I don;t know if they have an archive.
> 
> And even with more pleasure, I would like to bring your attention to this
> on NCSG:
> https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=ind1806&L=NCSG-DISCUSS&P=82546
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, May 7, 2018 at 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [NPOC Excom] NPOC funds
> To: Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org>
> Cc: Sam Lanfranco <Lanfran at yorku.ca>, Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net>,
> Excom NPOC <excom at npoc.org>
> 
> 
> Joan and all,
> 
> Here is Paul's response which he said I can share with you:
> 
> Please accept this note as Public Interest Registry’s confirmation that the
> financial support we offered in 2017 was paid to the Non-Commercial Users
> Constituency (NCUC) with the understanding that it’s leadership would use
> the funds as it saw fit. The same will be true for 2018 once that invoice
> is received. If NCUC leadership can administer this year’s support to the
> benefit of members of either the NCUC or the Not-for-Profit Operational
> Concerns constituency, so much the better.
> 
> 
> 
> As previously noted, Public Interest Registry would prefer to offer its
> financial support to the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG), and let
> the NCSG’s leadership use it as it sees fit. Given the NCSG’s lack of
> infrastructure (bank account, tax ID number), however, we will continue to
> engage directly with the NCUC via the existing arrangements.
> 
> 
> 
> Finally, Public Interest Registry is open to directly supporting NPOC or
> NCUC ad hoc projects that meet our collective interests and needs. We make
> no promises of support, however, and will need to review any such
> opportunities on a case by case basis.
> 
> 
> For this year, the money will go to NCUC bank account. NCUC EC will decide
> to open the call for travel support or other opportunities to the NCSG
> members and its constituencies and decide on travel allocation. NCSG will
> make an effort to open a bank account, get a Tax ID and come up with the
> appropriate procedure to allocate the funding for next year and also
> activate its Finance Committee.
> 
> Best
> 
> Farzaneh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Farzaneh
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 2:16 PM Tapani Tarvainen <ncuc at tapani.tarvainen.info>
> wrote:
> 
> > Dear Farzaneh,
> >
> > I'm quite sure this is the first time I have seen that message from
> > Paul Diaz - to be sure I just checked my emails for entire May.
> >
> > Nor can I find it in ncsg-discuss archive - if someone can, please
> > point it out. The archive can be found here:
> >
> > https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A0=NCSG-DISCUSS
> >
> > I don't know who you have shared it with before, but clearly lot of
> > unnecessary grief has been caused because it did *not* reach all the
> > people it should have.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Tapani
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 26 13:50, farzaneh badii (farzaneh.badii at gmail.com) wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Raoul,
> > >
> > > Please read the copy paste email below from Paul. Which was sent after
> > > Tapani and Joan sent me the email Tapani mentions and had asked me to
> > > clarify. Note that  Paul's first response which prompted Tapani and Joan
> > to
> > > seek clarification is deleted from the thread because it was not sent to
> > me
> > > so I don't know if I can share it publicly. if Tapani and Joan see that
> > > that email can be shared on a public list please feel free to do so.
> > >
> > > After Tapani and Joan email in April, we sought clarification from Paul
> > and
> > > Paul in his May email has clarified very clearly that 2017 funding was
> > for
> > > NCUC to be spent as it saw fit and that in 2018, NCUC can administer 2018
> > > support too. Please read it. I do not want to repeat this again. This was
> > > shared on NPOC EC as well when Paul sent it to us.
> > >
> > > I have shared this multiple times with you and on the NCSG mailing list.
> > If
> > > you think that there is anything unclear, please seek clarity and advice
> > > from the funders. I have cc'd NCUC EC and NPOC EC for the sake of
> > > transparency so that accusations are not taking place behind closed doors
> > > without people seeing the response, in his email, Paul says clearly that
> > he
> > > will follow up with Joan. How about Joan seeks clarification from Paul in
> > > this meeting?
> > >
> > > To be very clear, in 2019, no PIR NCSG funding will go to the bank
> > account
> > > of neither constituencies.   it will go to NCSG and NCSG Finance
> > Committee
> > > as it is speculated in its charter decides on how to allocate across the
> > > constituencies based on its operating procedures which will be drafted by
> > > FC and approved by NCSG EC (as the charter says). If NPOC wants direct
> > > funding from PIR, feel free to approach them.
> > >
> > > *From:* Paul Diaz
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:57 PM
> > > *To:* Mueller, Milton L; Badiei, Farzaneh
> > > *Cc:* Brian Cute
> > > *Subject:* RE: NCUC Annual Grant
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi, all
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry for the delayed response, it’s been more hectic than usual.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please accept this note as Public Interest Registry’s confirmation that
> > the
> > > financial support we offered in 2017 was paid to the Non-Commercial Users
> > > Constituency (NCUC) with the understanding that it’s leadership would use
> > > the funds as it saw fit. The same will be true for 2018 once that invoice
> > > is received. If NCUC leadership can administer this year’s support to the
> > > benefit of members of either the NCUC or the Not-for-Profit Operational
> > > Concerns constituency, so much the better.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As previously noted, Public Interest Registry would prefer to offer its
> > > financial support to the Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG), and let
> > > the NCSG’s leadership use it as it sees fit. Given the NCSG’s lack of
> > > infrastructure (bank account, tax ID number), however, we will continue
> > to
> > > engage directly with the NCUC via the existing arrangements.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Finally, Public Interest Registry is open to directly supporting NPOC or
> > > NCUC ad hoc projects that meet our collective interests and needs. We
> > make
> > > no promises of support, however, and will need to review any such
> > > opportunities on a case by case basis.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Please feel free to share this statement with your NPOC colleagues. I
> > also
> > > intend to follow up with Joan Kerr on a related clarifying question about
> > > financial support.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best, P
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > >
> >