[NCUC-EC] NCUC PC
Elsa S
elsa.saade at gmail.com
Mon Jul 9 16:53:19 CEST 2018
Definitely agree with you Bruna! We could focus on this for a couple of
days, and within a week post review of members, try to put OPs down to make
sure there wouldn’t be any sort of duplication with NCSG PC, as I mentioned
in the other email threads concerning this!
Id be happy to help develop some OPs but it would surely be good to have a
helping hand! Farzi and Rafik, it would also be good to have you guys
comment/ammend if we adopt this plan collectively!
E.
—
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 10:39 AM Bruna Martins dos Santos <
bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a suggestion:
>
> Why dont we draft a composition, and some sort of Operating Procedures and
> share it with the list for comments? We could open our thoughts to them and
> explain that our new Bylaws state the creation of a PC but we still have
> some doubts about its composition, date of creation (now or when the next
> leadership term begins) and etc, hence we are sharing it with the
> constituency in an open consultation model as asking the Constituency to
> help us create that.
>
> I am personally not sure whether or not we should start the PC now or
> leave it to the next leadership just so it will be well adjusted in the
> leadership terms.
>
> Best,
> B
>
> 2018-07-09 11:24 GMT-03:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi Rafik
>>
>> Thanks for your advice.
>> With both yours and Farzaneh`s opposition to a PC NCUC, that leaves
>> the EC in a difficult place.
>> NCUC has Operating Procedures with about 1 year old, the term of the
>> new appointees doesn`t need to be up until the election (like NCUC
>> Nomcom rep isn`t).
>> If there would be a need for procedures I`m sure just a clear set of
>> guidelines would do.
>>
>> But, alas, we can`t have a PC NCUC to serve to NCSG with NCSG objection.
>>
>> That is also concerning since our sister constituency has its PC,
>> including some who are our members too, who have tried initiaves with
>> NCUC in policy but found other avenues at NPOC, such as their PC.
>>
>> I`m also surprised by the idea of giving up on doing things or stop
>> moving giving elections is coming up.
>> We should work on building, rather than stalling. If in the future
>> there needs to be improvement or rebuilding it is not something that
>> should justify a standstill.
>> There has never been such a posture among NCUC leaders that I remember
>> and it is quite uncanny to start this now.
>> Even without trust on current or future leadership, the lack of action
>> is the most disregard one can show towards the constituency
>>
>> I was far from being the main co-drafter of these bylaws, previous
>> leadership were. Yet I think they are crucial to follow and we are
>> mandated by board to implement them. So we read them up and try to do
>> what is in there. How we plan to do it is trusting you and Farzaneh to
>> be supporters with NCUC, with advice on the way follow.
>>
>> Well, we have a lot on our plate so PC NCUC is one of many tasks on
>> our list. It is up to the EC whether we should move forward.
>> As NCUC, I see no reason why we shouldn`t do these 2 appointments left
>> for 1 year term.
>> If we still need better guidelines for the PC-NCUC we can discuss with
>> these new contributors involved.
>> However, majority rules here.
>> And would be best to decide on this with a better response than "we
>> stopped for elections".
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 10:20 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I would start first to give some background and context as I explained
>> > partly in NCSG or NCUC list. The PC is not a new idea, it was in
>> previous
>> > NCUC Bylaws even predating NCSG formation. What happened is when NCSG
>> was
>> > formed and NCUC position was to move all policy to SG level, the NCUC
>> PC
>> > became dormant de facto and even previous NCUC bylaws inconsistent with
>> NCSG
>> > charter as not updated. When Farzaneh, myself and other members of EC
>> worked
>> > on the last bylaws review, we updated the text, made it consistent it
>> with
>> > the NCSG charter and also took into account some previous cases.
>> >
>> > As I said, NCUC position since GNSO restructuring and moving to SG
>> model was
>> > to do policy at SG level. However, there were rare cases when NCUC could
>> > make a statement and NCUC EC was in a situation to endorse it while it
>> is
>> > not its remit. The new bylaws make the NCUC PC as a vehicle for that
>> and can
>> > be used when needed and relevant such supporting NCSG position to give
>> more
>> > weight.
>> >
>> > With regard to implementing the new bylaws in general, I think it would
>> be
>> > more useful to think about an implementation plan first. For example,
>> it was
>> > unclear why EC decided to start with Vice-chair position and what was
>> the
>> > rationale for such priority. With an implementation plan, such action
>> could
>> > have been discussed and prioritized. I believe that instead of trying to
>> > implement here and there some elements of the new bylaws, it would make
>> > sense for the EC as a team effort to go through the bylaws, identify
>> what is
>> > requested to be implemented either as a role, committee or elaborated as
>> > operating procedures. That would make a draft implementation plan when
>> > relevant tasks are identified and discussed with membership to decided
>> > about priority. All elements of bylaws must be implemented but they
>> should
>> > be done following a plan and outline the tasks needed to be done.
>> >
>> > so I advise doing that instead of focusing on NCUC PC only. I also
>> notice
>> > that members raised concerns on the mailing list and I cannot talk
>> what was
>> > discussed during the session at Panama meeting as I couldn't attend it
>> > because of a clash with council session. With a full implementation
>> plan and
>> > explanation, I think a proper consultation can be done with membership
>> and
>> > that would help a lot for communication.
>> >
>> > with regard to NCUC PC, I think before focusing on composition which
>> > articulated enough in bylaws, it is important to work on related
>> operating
>> > procedures and more the guidelines. Concerns were made about syncing and
>> > coordinating with NCSG PC and that cannot be just tweaked just around
>> > representation. While in bylaws we thought that having councilors
>> presences
>> > plus NCUC rep to NCSG would help, outlining clear guidelines and rules
>> of
>> > engagement for coordinating and working with NCSG PC are needed before
>> > setting the NCUC PC in order to avoid duplication, optimizing the work
>> and
>> > having consistent positions. There is some caveat here, NCSG and NCUC
>> > elections are just a few weeks away and so composition would change
>> again.
>> > better to use this precious time by EC to do the groundwork such
>> guidelines
>> > instead of starting the NCUC PC and not giving it a real chance to
>> succeed.
>> >
>> > Another point, the role of NCUC PC is indicated by the bylaws, I would
>> > advise against using it for any other purpose. If for example, you are
>> > thinking about capacity building, you shouldn't use such a vehicle but
>> > create another ad-hoc one fit for the purpose. I recall some
>> self-organized
>> > efforts like having drafters group of newcomers and so on. better to
>> nurture
>> > those efforts having all kind of flexibility than trying to use a
>> > bylaws-mandated structure for a specific purpose.
>> >
>> > Also please stick with the bylaws, for example, I saw in the draft call,
>> > that NCUC rep to NCSG PC are co-chairs. Bylaws say Chair and
>> vice-chair, so
>> > you get to follow that and not creating new positions while I may
>> understand
>> > the rationale. having NCSG and PC chair as observers when NCUC members,
>> is a
>> > fine proposal.
>> >
>> > hope that helps.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Rafik
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Le jeu. 5 juil. 2018 à 22:02, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> a
>> > écrit :
>> >>
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> Answers inline
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 11:44 AM, farzaneh badii
>> >> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 10:00 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi Farzaneh
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for these answers
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So by "priviledge of birth" GNSO Council are already members
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Previeledge of birth???? Members elect them to the council. What
>> birth.
>> >> > By
>> >> > being elected to the council they will be on ncuc policy committee.
>> >> > kindly
>> >> > choose your words carefully Renata especially as the chair it's
>> >> > important.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> [RAR] I would also kindly ask you to reminder not to use your primal
>> >> response here, which you would have learned it is a primary anger
>> >> instinct should you have attended NCSG course.
>> >>
>> >> Of course I`m not talking about birth as in ICANN baby GNSO
>> >> Councillors, you misinterpret me.
>> >>
>> >> I`m saying, just like you did, when they are "born" into office,
>> >> inaugurated, anointed - whichever word for this ritual you may want to
>> >> use - they become too PC NCUC - automatically, you said.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As well as PC NCSG are already chair and vice-chair
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Don't understand
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> these also have the automated ritual in place
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So the call we'll issue will serve to identify the 2 remaining slots
>> >> >> and observers
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Yes.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> So that is what I was confirming
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As for the purpose of the PC NCUC being disagreeing w/ PC NCSG that
>> >> >> also seems impossible to me as they are "automatically" linked
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Well you don't know the rationale behind this. Not always all or most
>> >> > councilors belong to one constituency. Policy committee is really a
>> >> > measure
>> >> > to trigger under special circumstances.
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> unlikely to happen anytime soon
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We'll likely have the GNSO Council members as "dorment" in the PC
>> NCUC
>> >> >> as they are already spread thin on the PC NCSG
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > As I said Policy committee is only needed at constituency level under
>> >> > special circumstances. You will probably have a dormant NCUC PC even.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> Could be. That doesn`t mean we shouldn`t implement the bylaws as they
>> >> were approved by the board. It will be up for next NCUC leadership
>> >> next steps with this PC.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> However, the other purposes of the PC NCUC are legitimate and can
>> help
>> >> >> also create better communication and participation in policy.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd discuss with NCUC EC the need for pc at the moment. Communication
>> >> > doesn't have to be through a policy committee. As I did during my
>> term,
>> >> > I
>> >> > periodically informed members. Also you need to be careful in not
>> >> > communicating duplicates of NCSG mailing list people don't want to
>> >> > receive
>> >> > two identical email. If you want to help find volunteers etc for
>> writing
>> >> > public comments then I think that's good but I do not encourage
>> >> > duplicates.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >> We have discussed the PC NCUC during NCUC Members session and we will
>> >> be careful not issuing duplicate messages as we have been.
>> >>
>> >> I find the idea itself of not having it as limiting the implementation
>> >> of bylaws and much more closer to incurring in liability than having
>> >> it and collectively overseeing it, hopefully with your advice, Rafik`s
>> >> and whoever wants to chime in.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I`d also believe NCSG Chairs and NCSG PC Chair should be part of the
>> >> >> committee, although as advisors/observers - again, I'm aware that
>> >> >> there are already too much tasks on those roles.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> I don't think you should allow ncsg chair and pc automatically
>> become
>> >> >> observers unless they are ncuc members.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I think no addition of observer is automatic but if there isn`t a
>> >> majority of opposition, it is EC decision.
>> >> EC wants you and Rafik to stay involved and advise us. Sometimes EC
>> >> may decide their own path but they will always listen.
>> >> It is important to keep communication between NCUC EC and NCSG Chair
>> >> (if you don`t want to talk to, let`s say, NCUC Chair).
>> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Again, this is a new implementation of our bylaws so we`ll learn it
>> as
>> >> >> we go along.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Renata
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 12:21 AM, farzaneh badii
>> >> >> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > In response to Renata, I first want to tell you why the idea
>> having a
>> >> >> > policy
>> >> >> > committee is in the bylaws in the first place. My opinion from my
>> >> >> > experience
>> >> >> > is that constituency's PC react when 1. consensus not possible at
>> the
>> >> >> > SG
>> >> >> > level 2. They want to re-emphasize the points of NCSG PC 3. They
>> want
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > add
>> >> >> > to their public comments or modify it.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The Bylaws say NCUC "shall" have a policy committee. Shall does
>> not
>> >> >> > mean
>> >> >> > must, it means "may". So I interpret that if there is a need for a
>> >> >> > policy
>> >> >> > committee at the NCUC level then NCUC will convene a policy
>> >> >> > committee.
>> >> >> > Seems
>> >> >> > like you have established the need.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Now we go to Renata's questions:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - The members of GNSO Council have seats on this safeguarded by
>> the
>> >> >> >> bylaws. Is it their obligation or do they need to confirm they
>> want
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> be a part of this?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > GNSO councilors who are NCUC members are automatically assigned a
>> >> >> > seat
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > NCUC PC. They are not obligated to but it's their right to be
>> >> >> > assigned a
>> >> >> > seat. So no need for confirmation or acceptance. They already have
>> >> >> > SOIs
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > GNSO council.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - EC has to elect Chair and Vice-chair of the PC NCUC, I assume
>> they
>> >> >> >> can be out of the safeguarded seats too right?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > [Paragraph B explicitly says: The Chair and the Vice Chair of the
>> >> >> > Policy
>> >> >> > Committee shall be appointed by the EC and the Chair shall also
>> serve
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > NCSG Policy Committee. ]
>> >> >> > This means that the chair of the policy committee should be
>> serving
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > NCSG
>> >> >> > PC. So only Farrel or Claudio can be chair. This design is on
>> >> >> > purpose.
>> >> >> > The
>> >> >> > chair of NCUC policy committee has to know what is going in NCSG
>> >> >> > Policy
>> >> >> > Committee and see if there are actions required to be taken at
>> NCUC
>> >> >> > level.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - Chairs of PC NCSG and NCSG are not referred in the bylaws as
>> part
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> PC NCUC however I`d take it they have to be included and
>> consulted
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> approval of the call as GNSO Council members are under their
>> >> >> >> purview?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Well, let me know if I missed anything
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > These two positions are not mentioned because there might come a
>> time
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > these two positions are not filled by NCUC members. Then you don't
>> >> >> > want
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > have non-NCUC members on your PC. But the Bylaws also say that
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > G) "Other individuals shall be invited to participate in the
>> >> >> > deliberations
>> >> >> > of the NCUC Policy Committee, including: 1. Members (or their
>> >> >> > Official
>> >> >> > Representatives) who are serving on GNSO Working Groups, ICANN
>> >> >> > Advisory
>> >> >> > Committees, presidential committees, and other policy bodies
>> >> >> > (standing
>> >> >> > or ad
>> >> >> > hoc) within ICANN; and
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So in effect, you shall (which means may, not must) invite them if
>> >> >> > you
>> >> >> > want.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Farzaneh
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 4:44 PM <ncuc-ec-request at lists.ncuc.org>
>> >> >> > wrote:
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>> >> >> >> Today's Topics:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> 1. Call for appointments for PC NCUC - please review by 10
>> July
>> >> >> >> (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
>> >> >> >> 2. NCUC Members call week of 16 July - Agenda and doodle
>> poll
>> >> >> >> request (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
>> >> >> >> 3. Re: NCUC Members call week of 16 July - Agenda and doodle
>> >> >> >> poll request (Elsa S)
>> >> >> >> 4. Re: Call for appointments for PC NCUC - please review by
>> 10
>> >> >> >> July (Elsa S)
>> >> >> >> 5. Re: debriefing notes (Mike)
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Message: 1
>> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 15:22:31 -0300
>> >> >> >> From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> To: "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>, Maryam Bakoshi
>> >> >> >> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>> >> >> >> Subject: [NCUC-EC] Call for appointments for PC NCUC - please
>> review
>> >> >> >> by 10 July
>> >> >> >> Message-ID:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> <
>> CAMokdMw-QxtfNDSxikwp8NPaA3sq7T1K7V2ZWoWpiSFRJj4Ycg at mail.gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi all
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> This is the draft of the call for PC NCUC
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rVg0hPQsS9fNfdnNvNCoiLVZm82inH-b9SUIL0KFTvY/edit?usp=sharing
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Maryam, can you please check it too
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> A few doubts:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - The members of GNSO Council have seats on this safeguarded by
>> the
>> >> >> >> bylaws. Is it their obligation or do they need to confirm they
>> want
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> be a part of this?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - EC has to elect Chair and Vice-chair of the PC NCUC, I assume
>> they
>> >> >> >> can be out of the safeguarded seats too right?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - Chairs of PC NCSG and NCSG are not referred in the bylaws as
>> part
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> PC NCUC however I`d take it they have to be included and
>> consulted
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> approval of the call as GNSO Council members are under their
>> >> >> >> purview?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Well, let me know if I missed anything
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ------------------------------
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Message: 2
>> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 15:47:44 -0300
>> >> >> >> From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> To: "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>, Maryam Bakoshi
>> >> >> >> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>> >> >> >> Subject: [NCUC-EC] NCUC Members call week of 16 July - Agenda and
>> >> >> >> doodle poll request
>> >> >> >> Message-ID:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> <CAMokdMxKvmbi6kDkF6TXybgO0UgL-30Kiyzevfaxt=
>> 2FJ_BoXA at mail.gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Let`s have a member`s call on the week of the 16th July to try
>> and
>> >> >> >> inform properly of upcoming news and latest developments
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Provisional agenda:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rCw9naZvd0MstJSyBLtZgzYNveXlB7Roj-OEQAIMDa4/edit?usp=sharing
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Maryam can you please send a poll to NCUC-Discuss to find a time
>> on
>> >> >> >> the week of the 16th?
>> >> >> >> Times should be Mon - Thu - 13UTC 17UTC or 20UTC
>> >> >> >> We may do 2 similar if we have enough responses for different
>> times
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ------------------------------
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Message: 3
>> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:27:01 -0400
>> >> >> >> From: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> Cc: "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>, Maryam Bakoshi
>> >> >> >> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] NCUC Members call week of 16 July - Agenda
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> doodle poll request
>> >> >> >> Message-ID:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> <
>> CAHFwYbeGYURU6QUao9vM7zt0heoHk3c_hYMThC1hxE0wvJYxDw at mail.gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks Renata, can’t seem to be able to open the google doc! Any
>> >> >> >> chance
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> link might be broken?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> E.
>> >> >> >> —
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 2:48 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> >> >> <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Hi
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Let`s have a member`s call on the week of the 16th July to try
>> and
>> >> >> >> > inform properly of upcoming news and latest developments
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Provisional agenda:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rCw9naZvd0MstJSyBLtZgzYNveXlB7Roj-OEQAIMDa4/edit?usp=sharing
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Maryam can you please send a poll to NCUC-Discuss to find a
>> time
>> >> >> >> > on
>> >> >> >> > the week of the 16th?
>> >> >> >> > Times should be Mon - Thu - 13UTC 17UTC or 20UTC
>> >> >> >> > We may do 2 similar if we have enough responses for different
>> >> >> >> > times
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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>> >> >> >> > NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >> >> > https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> --
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>> >> >> >> Message: 4
>> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:29:29 -0400
>> >> >> >> From: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> Cc: "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>, Maryam Bakoshi
>> >> >> >> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Call for appointments for PC NCUC - please
>> >> >> >> review by 10 July
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>> >> >> >> Hey Renata,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Very valid questions as we should be careful with the operating
>> >> >> >> procedures
>> >> >> >> we apply. I’ll be waiting for Maryam’s reply, and maybe some
>> advice
>> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> Farzi and Rafik on this one.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Best,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Elsa
>> >> >> >> —
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 2:23 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> >> >> <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Hi all
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > This is the draft of the call for PC NCUC
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rVg0hPQsS9fNfdnNvNCoiLVZm82inH-b9SUIL0KFTvY/edit?usp=sharing
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Maryam, can you please check it too
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > A few doubts:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > - The members of GNSO Council have seats on this safeguarded by
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > bylaws. Is it their obligation or do they need to confirm they
>> >> >> >> > want
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > be a part of this?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > - EC has to elect Chair and Vice-chair of the PC NCUC, I assume
>> >> >> >> > they
>> >> >> >> > can be out of the safeguarded seats too right?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > - Chairs of PC NCSG and NCSG are not referred in the bylaws as
>> >> >> >> > part
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> > PC NCUC however I`d take it they have to be included and
>> consulted
>> >> >> >> > on
>> >> >> >> > approval of the call as GNSO Council members are under their
>> >> >> >> > purview?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Well, let me know if I missed anything
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> > NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >> >> > NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >> >> > https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Elsa Saade
>> >> >> >> Consultant
>> >> >> >> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> >> >> >> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ------------------------------
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Message: 5
>> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:21:29 +0900
>> >> >> >> From: Mike <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> Cc: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
>> >> >> >> <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] debriefing notes
>> >> >> >> Message-ID: <1200B345-004C-41EC-99C1-E79674132FD7 at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I plan on applying for ICANN63, just have to clear a couple if
>> >> >> >> things
>> >> >> >> this
>> >> >> >> week first.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Michael
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Jul 3, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> >> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Yes, per travel policy each funded traveler has to write a
>> report
>> >> >> >> > Since this time you were funded by NCSG that is w them
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > For ICANN63 slots we had no EC candidates
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Should EC wish to apply please get that in order
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Em seg, 2 de jul de 2018 21:13, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> >> >> >> > escreveu:
>> >> >> >> >> Thanks Renata! I just added a small comment on the report
>> point
>> >> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> >> add
>> >> >> >> >> an action item! Would be happy to help write a report in the
>> next
>> >> >> >> >> week or
>> >> >> >> >> two.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Best,
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Elsa
>> >> >> >> >> —
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 1:05 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >> >> >> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>> Thank you, Renata! Should we push the idea of the series of
>> post
>> >> >> >> >>> from
>> >> >> >> >>> EC members about this past meeting ? Each of us could focus
>> on a
>> >> >> >> >>> theme/track.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> cheers,
>> >> >> >> >>> B.
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> 2018-07-02 9:58 GMT-03:00 Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> >> >> >>> <raquino at gmail.com>:
>> >> >> >> >>>> Hi
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Please find here our debriefing ICANN62 meeting notes
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hj4uIwKTjFuCnYMAL4db7jewVa8-njegLj43iexPUwg/edit?usp=sharing
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Best,
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>> Renata
>> >> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >>>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >> >> >>>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >> >> >>>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >> >>> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> >> >> >> >>> @boomartins
>> >> >> >> >>> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >>> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >> >> >>> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >> >> >>> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Elsa Saade
>> >> >> >> >> Consultant
>> >> >> >> >> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> >> >> >> >> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
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