[NCUC-EC] announcing ICANN63 travel slot?

Wed Aug 29 17:35:21 CEST 2018

I also don't understand this course of action. As I understand it, we were
deliberating the travel slots - and all that remained was to decide between
Ben or Dina. Nobody has suggested allocating the CROP and, as Bruna says,
we haven't done a proper call.

I would suggest the Chair hold back on this, and we ask the EC folks who
voted for Ben *OR* Dina to just pick one or the other, with a deadline of
COB today.

On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:29 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Dear Bruna
>
> Unfortunately I have time and time again given the EC the opportunity
> to participate on the CROP Outreach Plan, on the deadline to ICANN63
> and on the weighing in on solutions.
> I'm sorry you oppose now but we are out of options
>
> Best,
>
> Renata
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:23 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> > We did not open a call for this one and it will raise questions in our
> > membership as to why we gave it to Dina once this was never announced to
> the
> > larger list. And also, I dont believe that there is such thing as an
> > interpretation that if we dont use this crop NOW we are to lose, given
> that
> > the three slots shall be used until the end of FY19.
> >
> > Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 12:18, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>
> >> Dear Renata,
> >>
> >> I am sorry but I oppose this idea. We were not discussing CROP, we were
> >> discussing travel support.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Em qua, 29 de ago de 2018 às 12:17, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >> <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>>
> >>> Dear all
> >>>
> >>> We should have announced this on the 27aug
> >>>
> >>> We also have the CROP ICANN63 slot to an EU NCUC member
> >>>
> >>> We just received a reminder today to use it, at the risk of losing it
> >>>
> >>> I have read all the emails and I'll do the following
> >>>
> >>> Travel Support - 1st slot
> >>> Shahul Hameed
> >>>
> >>> Travel Support - 2nd slot
> >>> Benjamin Akinmoyeje
> >>>
> >>> CROP ICANN63
> >>> I'll work with Dina Thomas on a NCUC CROP outreach plan and send it to
> >>> the EC and to the CROP staff.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Renata
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 10:22 AM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > Dear All,
> >>> >
> >>> > I believe that according the advice provided by Farzi we still have
> >>> > this
> >>> > year to decide whether or not we are using this support exclusively
> to
> >>> > NCUC
> >>> > members or if we are opening the selection to NPOC and NCSG as well -
> >>> > as we
> >>> > did in this one - but as this selection is still subjected to NCUC
> EC I
> >>> > believe that we should continue to perform by selecting the funded
> >>> > members
> >>> > based on the quality of their outreach plans and application
> >>> > independently
> >>> > of the approach we seek to follow - opening calls or using them for
> >>> > NCUC
> >>> > only.
> >>> >
> >>> > In that sense, I am also between Dina and Ben.
> >>> >
> >>> > Dina provided a good application and is also supported by NPOC
> >>> > Leadership,
> >>> > but I agree with Louise on the "her application might have benefitted
> >>> > from a
> >>> > more concrete outline of how she has been working within PDPs - or
> >>> > tying PDP
> >>> > experience as an observer with her policy writing". I very much
> >>> > appreciate
> >>> > Dina's efforts regarding the Policy writing ad-hoc group she tried to
> >>> > assemble, but I did not see it moving forward (and am not implying it
> >>> > is her
> >>> > fault either).
> >>> >
> >>> > On the other hand, we have Ben who we approved on a previous call and
> >>> > due to
> >>> > personal reasons was not able to attend the meeting. Ben is has been
> >>> > involved in the RDS and the RPMs working group and while we thought
> >>> > that the
> >>> > Policy meeting would be a moment for him to make sense of what has
> been
> >>> > discussed in the calls, he was not able to attend. If I am not
> >>> > mistaken,
> >>> > when we chatted about his situation in PR, and the idea of
> >>> > re-considering
> >>> > him for the subsequent call was at the table.
> >>> >
> >>> > Given that I am very on the fence about the selection of the second
> >>> > candidate, and that the two candidates are from EU and AF, I would be
> >>> > more
> >>> > than happy to follow the advice from our EU and AF representatives.
> >>> >
> >>> > And please, lets decide soon on this matter, the more we delay the
> >>> > decision
> >>> > the harder it becomes to our funded members to find tickets within
> the
> >>> > price
> >>> > range. Barcelona is in less than two months!
> >>> >
> >>> > best,
> >>> > B.
> >>> >
> >>> > Em ter, 28 de ago de 2018 às 10:15, Louise Marie Hurel
> >>> > <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Dear all,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> First, I'd like to kindly thank Joan for her inputs.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Second, I cast my first vote to Shahul. As my colleagues have
> already
> >>> >> highlighted, he has been actively engaging in policy writing and
> shows
> >>> >> promising development within our community -- he has shown
> consistent
> >>> >> commitment and dedication. His application was clear, consistent and
> >>> >> grounded. I think he would also benefit greatly from the opportunity
> >>> >> to
> >>> >> participate on-site and hopefully lay deeper grounds for further
> >>> >> engagement
> >>> >> within the NCUC.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Quite frankly, my second vote goes to either Benjamin or Dina. Let
> me
> >>> >> take
> >>> >> a few lines to explain why - given NPOC Chair's support for Dina. I
> >>> >> have had
> >>> >> the opportunity to work with her in the past two meetings at the
> >>> >> onboarding
> >>> >> program. She is committed and has engaged in drafting comments - a
> >>> >> strong
> >>> >> applicant. Although her application might have benefitted from a
> more
> >>> >> concrete outline of how she has been working within PDPs - or tying
> >>> >> PDP
> >>> >> experience as an observer with her policy writing (a general way of
> >>> >> gaining
> >>> >> insights and perspectives from other stakeholder groups and/or
> >>> >> maturity in
> >>> >> navigating ICANN). On the other hand, I also think that we need to
> >>> >> give
> >>> >> space for new applicants, and that includes giving Ben an
> opportunity,
> >>> >> as he
> >>> >> has, unfortunately, not been able to attend the last meeting due to
> >>> >> visa
> >>> >> issues. He also submitted a good application, clearly demonstrating
> >>> >> consistency in participating and following two PDPs and looking for
> >>> >> mentorship. My only question here is that while he states that he
> >>> >> would do
> >>> >> his best to "keep along with the ICANN63 sessions especially those
> >>> >> that
> >>> >> concern the NCUC and NCSG" he didn't explain how the slot would also
> >>> >> play
> >>> >> into his volunteer work on NPOC's PC, in particular. I think that
> this
> >>> >> might
> >>> >> have been an opportunity for him to provide a more robust account
> of a
> >>> >> grounded plan for engagement in this next meeting.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> As observed, I outlined both the pros and cons of their
> applications.
> >>> >> I
> >>> >> don't think there's a clear shot here and thus count on my peers to
> >>> >> either
> >>> >> provide further insights to their decision that might aid in the
> >>> >> allocation
> >>> >> of this slot or, rely on a majority of voters for one or the other.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Hope this provides a fair account of my decision.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Kind regards,
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Louise Marie Hurel
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
> >>> >>
> >>> >> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and
> >>> >> Society)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Skype: louise.dias
> >>> >> +44 (0) 7468 906327
> >>> >> l.h.dias at lse.ac.uk
> >>> >> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Mon, 27 Aug 2018 at 18:43, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>> >> <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Thank you Joan for your clarification.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org>
> wrote:
> >>> >>> > Hi Renata, All
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > NPOC is supporting Dina for a number of reasons.  She has been
> >>> >>> > working
> >>> >>> > hard
> >>> >>> > with the newly formed PC and has a lot of experience in policy
> and
> >>> >>> > processes.  NPOC feels Dina is the right choice and will be
> >>> >>> > instrumental in
> >>> >>> > assisting with the policy going forward.
> >>> >>> > Thanks,
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:23 PM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>> >>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
> >>> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> Dear Joan
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> Please see inquiry from one of the NCUC EC reps.
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:47 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>> >>> >> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>> >> > Dear all,
> >>> >>> >> >
> >>> >>> >> > My first vote went to Shahul, and as I am still to decide who
> >>> >>> >> > will
> >>> >>> >> > get
> >>> >>> >> > the
> >>> >>> >> > second slot Im more prone to vote either o Ben or Farell, who
> is
> >>> >>> >> > also a
> >>> >>> >> > NPOC
> >>> >>> >> > member I believe.
> >>> >>> >> >
> >>> >>> >> > Renata, do you think that would be the case for asking Joan
> >>> >>> >> > whether
> >>> >>> >> > or
> >>> >>> >> > not
> >>> >>> >> > she'd recommend a second name since Remmy withdrew his
> candidacy
> >>> >>> >> > ?
> >>> >>> >> >
> >>> >>> >> > best,
> >>> >>> >> > B.
> >>> >>> >> >
> >>> >>> >> > Em dom, 26 de ago de 2018 às 21:59, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> >>> >>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>> >> >> Dear EC
> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>> >> >> It is time to announce the ICANN63 travel slots.
> >>> >>> >> >> Please decide soon.
> >>> >>> >> >>
> >>> >>> >> >> Thanks
> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________
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> >>> >>> >> >
> >>> >>> >> >
> >>> >>> >> >
> >>> >>> >> > --
> >>> >>> >> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>> >>> >> >
> >>> >>> >> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>> >>> >> > @boomartins
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > --
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Joan Kerr,
> >>> >>> >
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> >>> >>> >
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> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > Skype: joankerr_fbsc
> >>> >>> >
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> >>> >>> >
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> >>> >>> >
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> >>> >>> >
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> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>> >
> >>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >>> > @boomartins
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >>
> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> >> @boomartins
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
> >
> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
> > @boomartins
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