[NCUC-EC] Justification

farzaneh badii farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
Mon Aug 27 21:33:42 CEST 2018 

correction: funders not founders.

Farzaneh


On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 3:32 PM farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>
wrote:

> From the beginning, the idea of reaching out to NCSG and NPOC for
> "nonbinding" advice was thrown around by Renata and I don't know if it was
> an EC decision.
>
> Anyhow, I believe NCUC EC does not have to take on an NCSG or an NPOC
> member for this round, I have said it multiple times, the founders said in
> 2018 NCUC can decide, if decided to include NPOC, then good.
>
> If the EC sees that there are NCUC members that should be funded and
> cannot decide on the pool of candidates of NPOC, it is all very
> justified to select two NCUC members for this round too. No other
> justification is needed. Advice was nonbinding.
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:29 PM <ncuc-ec-request at lists.ncuc.org> wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Fwd: Application for Travel Support for ICANN63
>>       (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
>>    2. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan
>>       (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
>>    3. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan
>>       (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
>>    4. Re: Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan
>>       (Renata Aquino Ribeiro)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 17:48:01 -0300
>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>> To: Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
>>         <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Application for Travel Support for ICANN63
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>> I dont think so, Mike. As per usual, we have to slots to fill and the only
>> thing we decided so far was to assign one of those to Shahul. The second
>> one is yet to be considered and all of us but you have yet to select
>> someone.
>>
>> Re. the CROP, we can only assign it after GSE has approved our outreach
>> plan. I believe it will most likely be approved but I dont think the
>> decision has been issued yet.
>>
>>
>> Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 17:41, Michael Karanicolas <
>> mkaranicolas at gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>> > Ok. So if that's the case, then we only have one slot to assign - and
>> > I guess Shahul has the majority for that?
>> >
>> > Then the question that remains is whether we should do a call for CROP
>> > - and if we're hoping to assign one for ICANN63, we should put the
>> > call out soon.
>> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 5:36 PM Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Hey all,
>> > >
>> > > What about supporting Ben again ? This was smth that was discussed
>> > during Panama and maybe its a way forward. Let it be known that this is
>> not
>> > yet my vote for the second slot, just a suggestion.
>> > >
>> > > Also, on the CROP note, I would rather not give the CROP now for the
>> > following reasons:
>> > >
>> > > 1. the call was for the travel support - a reimbursement based aid -
>> > maybe if we had advertised it as a CROP we could've had more
>> applications
>> > from other members than the ones who applied for this call.
>> > > 2. Given that the only member who we could possibly assign the CROP to
>> > has applied to the travel funding as an NPOC member and plans to
>> represent
>> > the constituency in this capacity, I dont think it would be suitable to
>> > assign this crop just yet.
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > > bruna
>> > >
>> > > Em qua, 22 de ago de 2018 às 11:52, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>> > raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you all for your votes.
>> > >>
>> > >> Shahul Hameed has now EC Majority.
>> > >>
>> > >> Dina Thomas has 1 vote and NPOC Chair support.
>> > >> Should you not wish to support the candidate, please send in your
>> > justification.
>> > >>
>> > >> The CROP slot for an EU member is still a hypothetical, until we know
>> > >> if our CROP Outreach Plan has been approved or not.
>> > >>
>> > >> And please refrain from identifying people with immigration issues,
>> > >> this is personal data and should not be published on our open list.
>> > >>
>> > >> We are missing votes from NCUC EU and a vote for the 2nd slot from
>> > >> NCUC AP, NCUC AF, NCUC LAC
>> > >>
>> > >> Best,
>> > >>
>> > >> Renata
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> > >
>> > > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> > > @boomartins
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>>
>>
>> --
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> @boomartins
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>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:17:41 -0300
>> From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> To: Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>, Maryam Bakoshi
>>         <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>> Cc: "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP
>>         outreach plan
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>> I am at a loss as well, Michael.
>>
>> The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval, just
>> like last year.
>> We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along the
>> lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.
>> We had 2 VPs in favor
>>
>> This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.
>> Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with
>> any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.
>>
>> Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a
>> response. Probably direct him to your blog post.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>> raquino at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you add
>> >> anything to this response?
>> >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------
>> >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>> >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31
>> >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan
>> >> Para: "raquino at gmail.com" <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> Cc:
>> >>
>> >> Dear Renata,
>> >>
>> >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach plan.
>> >>
>> >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff to
>> >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN
>> meetings. Also
>> >> there is a lack of concrete metrics.  It is fine, but I think it could
>> be
>> >> more detailed and actionable.
>> >>
>> >> —
>> >> Many thanks,
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>> >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>> >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: ‭+44 7846 471777‬
>> >>
>> >>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:20:29 -0300
>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>> To: Renata Aquino <raquino at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>, Maryam Bakoshi
>>         <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>,  "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP
>>         outreach plan
>> Message-ID:
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>> As per my understanding, Chris's consideration was for us to include a
>> sentence in our outreach plan that would express the constituency's
>> willingness to work closely with GSE teams in identifying other meetings
>> where the CROP would be applicable and that our members could be sponsored
>> to.  - I would have problems with that as we mentioned all  3 ICANN
>> meetings given that there was not yet an understanding regarding the
>> meetings other than the ICANN ones that the CROP would be applicable to.
>>
>> Is that correct, @Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> ?
>>
>> Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 18:18, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>> raquino at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>> > I am at a loss as well, Michael.
>> >
>> > The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval, just
>> > like last year.
>> > We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along the
>> > lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.
>> > We had 2 VPs in favor
>> >
>> > This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.
>> > Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with
>> > any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.
>> >
>> > Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a
>> > response. Probably direct him to your blog post.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Renata
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>> > <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>> > raquino at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi
>> > >>
>> > >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you add
>> > >> anything to this response?
>> > >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------
>> > >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>> > >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31
>> > >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan
>> > >> Para: "raquino at gmail.com" <raquino at gmail.com>
>> > >> Cc:
>> > >>
>> > >> Dear Renata,
>> > >>
>> > >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach
>> plan.
>> > >>
>> > >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff to
>> > >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN
>> meetings.
>> > Also
>> > >> there is a lack of concrete metrics.  It is fine, but I think it
>> could
>> > be
>> > >> more detailed and actionable.
>> > >>
>> > >> —
>> > >> Many thanks,
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>> > >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>> > >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: ‭+44 7846 471777‬
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> _______________________________________________
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>>
>> --
>> *Bruna Martins dos Santos *
>>
>> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> @boomartins
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>> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 18:28:14 -0300
>> From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> To: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Michael Karanicolas <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>, Maryam Bakoshi
>>         <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>,  "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org
>> >
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] Fwd: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP
>>         outreach plan
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>> Maryam can you follow up on GSE sponsorship plan again please?
>>
>> But Bruna, he says nothing of other meetings but regional work.
>> So again, at a loss here. I thought we were very mindful of NA.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 6:20 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > As per my understanding, Chris's consideration was for us to include a
>> > sentence in our outreach plan that would express the constituency's
>> > willingness to work closely with GSE teams in identifying other meetings
>> > where the CROP would be applicable and that our members could be
>> sponsored
>> > to.  - I would have problems with that as we mentioned all  3 ICANN
>> meetings
>> > given that there was not yet an understanding regarding the meetings
>> other
>> > than the ICANN ones that the CROP would be applicable to.
>> >
>> > Is that correct, @Maryam Bakoshi ?
>> >
>> > Em qui, 23 de ago de 2018 às 18:18, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> > <raquino at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >>
>> >> I am at a loss as well, Michael.
>> >>
>> >> The context is: we have sent our CROP Outreach Plan for approval, just
>> >> like last year.
>> >> We tried to adapt it to the new CROP requirements yet follow along the
>> >> lines of the plan last year which was approved without any issue.
>> >> We had 2 VPs in favor
>> >>
>> >> This VP has made the points below and we need to reply.
>> >> Since he is VP NA, I am asking if you would like to contribute with
>> >> any information, as you were also a CROP recipient for the region.
>> >>
>> >> Should you have nothing to add, I'll draft something and send it as a
>> >> response. Probably direct him to your blog post.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Renata
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Michael Karanicolas
>> >> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > I am confused. Can you please include a bit more context for this?
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 10:51 AM Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> >> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hi
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Michael, since you are EC NA and this comes from VP NA, can you add
>> >> >> anything to this response?
>> >> >> ---------- Mensagem encaminhada ----------
>> >> >> De: "Maryam Bakoshi" <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
>> >> >> Data: 23 de ago de 2018 05:31
>> >> >> Assunto: Question from Chris Mondini - CROP outreach plan
>> >> >> Para: "raquino at gmail.com" <raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> >> Cc:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dear Renata,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Chris Mondini made the comment below regarding the NCUC outreach
>> plan.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It would be nice to see mention of working with Regional Org staff
>> to
>> >> >> partner on outreach or other events that go beyond just ICANN
>> meetings.
>> >> >> Also
>> >> >> there is a lack of concrete metrics.  It is fine, but I think it
>> could
>> >> >> be
>> >> >> more detailed and actionable.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> —
>> >> >> Many thanks,
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>> >> >> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>> >> >> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: ‭+44 7846 471777‬
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Bruna Martins dos Santos
>> >
>> > Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>> > @boomartins
>>
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