[NCUC-EC] ICANN 62/ NCUC has meetings at NCSG level

Renata Aquino Ribeiro raquino at gmail.com
Thu Apr 26 23:27:51 CEST 2018 

Hi

Thanks Farzaneh for the advices. The allocated EC will collabore too
on NCSG + At-Large like before.

All, if you wish to look into the possibility of an NCUC session, I'm
not sure if we can do it anymore since the deadline was in the
beginning of the week.

However, if you wish to do one, you should decide asap.

I will note that smaller meetings like EC meetings can probably be
done ad-hoc but would be best if you decide in advance if you want to
do them

Best,

Renata


On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 1:14 PM, farzaneh badii
<farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
> All
>
>  NCUC and NCSG have the same mission and at the moment NCUC and NCSG
> positions are aligned on almost all issues. You are a member of NCSG :) .
> NCUC makes policy through NCSG councilors and has representatives on NCSG
> (if it sees necessary in the future it can have its own policy committee but
> at the moment there is no bandwidth nor necessity).
>
> NCSG receives its strengths in policymaking from its constituencies and its
> independent members. Lets not say no NCUC session will take place at ICANN
> 62. Lets say NCUC will do its activities at ICANN 62 at NCSG level.
> Something we have been doing for the past two years since the policy
> committee format came into effect. The community meeting and the AGM
> normally are focussed on constituencies. I worked with Tapani last year on
> NCSG policy discussions and meetings and NCSG outreach. When we say NCSG
> outreach with At-Large we mean NCSG and its constituencies' outreach. It
> means you should get involved with setting the outreach agenda of the
> session, in fact, I will be very disappointed if you don't work with Tatiana
> to come up with the program and help shape it.
>
> I don't mean you can't have an NCUC session during policy meeting. Of course
> you can. But if you want to be involved with PDPs be on top of the game,
> carry the torch of noncommercials in PDPs and cross community sessions, it
> is best to minimize your internal NCUC activities and contribute at NCSG
> level for this meeting only. Informal meetings with others and if you see
> the need to have a brief meeting for example breakfast with the fellows, etc
> make sense. But try to be in PDPs and be as influential as you can in policy
> processes in ICANN 62. I probably won't be there so I count on you.
>
> Best
>
>
>
> Farzaneh
>
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>>    3. Re: ICANN62 - No NCUC Sessions (Elsa S)
>>    4. Re: ICANN62 - No NCUC Sessions (Bruna Martins dos Santos)
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:08:08 -0400
>> From: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] ICANN62 - No NCUC Sessions
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>> Hey Renata,
>>
>> I think we could take advantage of the part we have in the NCSG-At-Large
>> session. And as discussed in our EC call, we could potentially have a
>> get-together for the NCUC community post-scheduled sessions. I'm not sure
>> how this sounds to the team, so I look forward to their deliberations.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Elsa
>> --
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear EC
>> >
>> > We were advised not to have any NCUC sessions on ICANN62
>> >
>> > This is the advice from PC NCSG Chair
>> >
>> > "currently all slots will be allocated to PDP WGs except few for
>> > council (kept to bare minimum) and not counting CC session as they are
>> > by default unconflicted. So any session from SG/C will be clashing
>> > with them"
>> >
>> > Therefore, unfortunately, there will be no space for conversation
>> > about NCUC on ICANN62.
>> >
>> > If you still want to have an NCUC session, risking clash w/ PDPs, let
>> > me know asap so I can ask staff
>> >
>> > Thank you
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:17:13 -0300
>> From: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> To: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
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>> Hi Elsa
>>
>> That was an offer from a LAC member organization, which I'm not sure
>> if it's on the table anymore since it had to be pursued and organized.
>> Including raising funds. They had just offered spaces and audiences.
>> And this was offered back in ICANN61 and if it was not actioned upon
>> so far, I guess it is unlikely it will happen.
>>
>> NCSG + At-Large is an NCSG event. While NCUC is grateful if we happen
>> to be invited for a quick line, the program will be done by NCSG.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hey Renata,
>> >
>> > I think we could take advantage of the part we have in the NCSG-At-Large
>> > session. And as discussed in our EC call, we could potentially have a
>> > get-together for the NCUC community post-scheduled sessions. I'm not
>> > sure
>> > how this sounds to the team, so I look forward to their deliberations.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Elsa
>> > --
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> > <raquino at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear EC
>> >>
>> >> We were advised not to have any NCUC sessions on ICANN62
>> >>
>> >> This is the advice from PC NCSG Chair
>> >>
>> >> "currently all slots will be allocated to PDP WGs except few for
>> >> council (kept to bare minimum) and not counting CC session as they are
>> >> by default unconflicted. So any session from SG/C will be clashing
>> >> with them"
>> >>
>> >> Therefore, unfortunately, there will be no space for conversation
>> >> about NCUC on ICANN62.
>> >>
>> >> If you still want to have an NCUC session, risking clash w/ PDPs, let
>> >> me know asap so I can ask staff
>> >>
>> >> Thank you
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > --
>> >
>> > Elsa Saade
>> > Consultant
>> > Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> > Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>>
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:32:54 -0400
>> From: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> To: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Exec. Comm" <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] ICANN62 - No NCUC Sessions
>> Message-ID:
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>> I'd suggest we follow up and see if this could actually be actioned upon?
>> It really could turn out well.
>>
>> Elsa
>> --
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> <raquino at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Elsa
>> >
>> > That was an offer from a LAC member organization, which I'm not sure
>> > if it's on the table anymore since it had to be pursued and organized.
>> > Including raising funds. They had just offered spaces and audiences.
>> > And this was offered back in ICANN61 and if it was not actioned upon
>> > so far, I guess it is unlikely it will happen.
>> >
>> > NCSG + At-Large is an NCSG event. While NCUC is grateful if we happen
>> > to be invited for a quick line, the program will be done by NCSG.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Renata
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Hey Renata,
>> > >
>> > > I think we could take advantage of the part we have in the
>> > > NCSG-At-Large
>> > > session. And as discussed in our EC call, we could potentially have a
>> > > get-together for the NCUC community post-scheduled sessions. I'm not
>> > > sure
>> > > how this sounds to the team, so I look forward to their deliberations.
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > >
>> > > Elsa
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>> > raquino at gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Dear EC
>> > >>
>> > >> We were advised not to have any NCUC sessions on ICANN62
>> > >>
>> > >> This is the advice from PC NCSG Chair
>> > >>
>> > >> "currently all slots will be allocated to PDP WGs except few for
>> > >> council (kept to bare minimum) and not counting CC session as they
>> > >> are
>> > >> by default unconflicted. So any session from SG/C will be clashing
>> > >> with them"
>> > >>
>> > >> Therefore, unfortunately, there will be no space for conversation
>> > >> about NCUC on ICANN62.
>> > >>
>> > >> If you still want to have an NCUC session, risking clash w/ PDPs, let
>> > >> me know asap so I can ask staff
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you
>> > >> _______________________________________________
>> > >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> > >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> > >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > --
>> > >
>> > > Elsa Saade
>> > > Consultant
>> > > Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> > > Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Elsa Saade
>> Consultant
>> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:54:46 -0300
>> From: Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>> To: Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>, "Exec. Comm"
>>         <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>
>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] ICANN62 - No NCUC Sessions
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>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> About the NCUC meetings during Panama - I dont think 3 meetings were good
>> enough considering they could clash with pdps sessions, but maybe 1h
>> meeting to brief members (I know that we have morning GNSO briefing
>> sessions) and to showcase presentations of the fellows could be a good
>> thing.
>>
>> About the Policy slam - after hours meeting past the NCSG course - that I
>> had suggested in the last call, as you may remember, the action points
>> were
>> for me to contact the member and check if the offer was still up and then
>> consult GSE.
>>
>> Well, I consulted with the Organization we mentioned and I was told that
>> there was never an offer for space, only for local support in contacting
>> and mobilizing their network for the meeting. Lia told me that she could
>> still try to find a space maybe with the government, but the funds for
>> catering or even drinks would have to be NCUC or other organization funds
>> (as I find very hard that GSE would support us in this).
>>
>> If we are still to do this, we should discuss the model of the event and
>> if
>> its of any worth. I personally think that a more relaxed event with pitch
>> talks about our organizations and the policy development process we work
>> at
>> icann could be a good way of showcasing NCUC, what do you guys think?
>>
>> Best,
>> Bruna
>>
>> 2018-04-26 12:32 GMT-03:00 Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com>:
>>
>> > I'd suggest we follow up and see if this could actually be actioned
>> > upon?
>> > It really could turn out well.
>> >
>> > Elsa
>> > --
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>> > <raquino at gmail.com
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Elsa
>> >>
>> >> That was an offer from a LAC member organization, which I'm not sure
>> >> if it's on the table anymore since it had to be pursued and organized.
>> >> Including raising funds. They had just offered spaces and audiences.
>> >> And this was offered back in ICANN61 and if it was not actioned upon
>> >> so far, I guess it is unlikely it will happen.
>> >>
>> >> NCSG + At-Large is an NCSG event. While NCUC is grateful if we happen
>> >> to be invited for a quick line, the program will be done by NCSG.
>> >>
>> >> Best,
>> >>
>> >> Renata
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hey Renata,
>> >> >
>> >> > I think we could take advantage of the part we have in the
>> >> > NCSG-At-Large
>> >> > session. And as discussed in our EC call, we could potentially have a
>> >> > get-together for the NCUC community post-scheduled sessions. I'm not
>> >> sure
>> >> > how this sounds to the team, so I look forward to their
>> >> > deliberations.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> >
>> >> > Elsa
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 7:55 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>> >> raquino at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Dear EC
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We were advised not to have any NCUC sessions on ICANN62
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is the advice from PC NCSG Chair
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "currently all slots will be allocated to PDP WGs except few for
>> >> >> council (kept to bare minimum) and not counting CC session as they
>> >> >> are
>> >> >> by default unconflicted. So any session from SG/C will be clashing
>> >> >> with them"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Therefore, unfortunately, there will be no space for conversation
>> >> >> about NCUC on ICANN62.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you still want to have an NCUC session, risking clash w/ PDPs,
>> >> >> let
>> >> >> me know asap so I can ask staff
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you
>> >> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> >> NCUC-EC mailing list
>> >> >> NCUC-EC at lists.ncuc.org
>> >> >> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> > Elsa Saade
>> >> > Consultant
>> >> > Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> >> > Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > --
>> >
>> > Elsa Saade
>> > Consultant
>> > Gulf Centre for Human Rights
>> > Twitter: @Elsa_Saade
>> >
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>> >
>>
>>
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>>
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