[NCUC-EC] [deadline 6th April - Please vote] NCUC response on fellowship questionnaire

Fri Apr 6 16:46:28 CEST 2018

Guys,

I just made some comments/suggestions on the proposed text. How are we
proceeding on this matter ?

best,
Bruna

2018-04-06 9:20 GMT-03:00 Louise Marie Hurel <louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> I appreciate the great amount of work that Claudio and many other members
> have put into drafting this comment. It is fundamental for members to feel
> encouraged engage in this effort, especially given that the fellowship
> program has played such a cross-cutting role in bringing qualified people
> to ICANN.
> However, having read the document, I would concur that it is not ripe
> enough to be submitted. There are contradictions and clarifications that
> require attention and are still under review. Not sure if Claudio did add
> some of the inputs from this document into Farzi's - but would encourage
> this course of action as it could deliver some of the work that was put
> into the current document. I also think that we should stress that inputs
> be submitted in advance.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Louise Marie Hurel
>
> Cybersecurity Project Coordinator | Igarapé Institute
>
> London School of Economics (LSE) Media and Communications (Data and
> Society)
> Skype: louise.dias
> +44 (0) 7468 906327
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> louise.marie.hsd at gmail.com
>
>
> 2018-04-05 18:02 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>
>> Just finished my comments and edits and added some ICANN Fellowship
>> Survey numbers. Good to go now from my side.
>>
>> Good night all.
>>
>> 2018-04-05 19:46 GMT+00:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Thank you Bruna :) Am finally home so will start in a few.
>>>
>>>
>>> Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Bruna Martins dos Santos <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com>
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Ines, I will make sure to take a look tonight too! (:
>>>>
>>>> 2018-04-05 14:06 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks all. Please feel free to edit as well so that we are able to
>>>>> finalize it by tonight.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> a
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>> > Hello
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks all once more.
>>>>> > Indeed the deadline is Apr 6 and it is up to the EC to decide on
>>>>> > submitting it or not.
>>>>> > If it can be done by tomorrow then we'll share that with members.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > As mentioned, this is already an extension of the original comment
>>>>> > period so unless ICANN organization gives NCUC an extension, it won't
>>>>> > be considered after the deadline.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 1:03 PM, Elsa S <elsa.saade at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >> Hi Renata,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> The document indeed isn't presentable as is. However, I think it
>>>>> would be
>>>>> >> worthwhile if Ines would work on the document, as she suggested, in
>>>>> order to
>>>>> >> fine tune it as much as possible.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I'd vote that we check the updates on the document tomorrow
>>>>> earliest or
>>>>> >> tonight and swiftly evaluate amongst each other if the document
>>>>> would be
>>>>> >> good enough to circulate amongst the members list and submit later
>>>>> on April
>>>>> >> 6th. If we find that the document still needs work, then I guess we
>>>>> could
>>>>> >> revert to the NCSG document which seems to be somehow finalized.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Best,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Elsa
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 11:51 AM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>>>>> raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Hello
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Thank you all for your comments
>>>>> >>> As we have 3 votes already this is where it seems that this matter
>>>>> is:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Deadline for NCUC submission is 6 April - since doc is deemed not
>>>>> >>> ready (by majority of EC isn't) - won't be submitted
>>>>> >>> If an extension to NCUC is granted, the submission can be
>>>>> re-evaluated
>>>>> >>> Contributions made to NCUC comment are being tentatively
>>>>> incorporated
>>>>> >>> to NCSG comment, which will be submitted
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I will share this decision of the EC with members tomorrow unless I
>>>>> >>> receive any other data which could possibly change this process.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Best,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Renata
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Michael Karanicolas
>>>>> >>> <mkaranicolas at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>> > Hi,
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > I generally concur - though it looks now as if Claudio has
>>>>> migrated over
>>>>> >>> > to
>>>>> >>> > Farzi's draft, so I'm not sure where that leaves us in terms of
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>> > drafting... Nonetheless, I think it would be good to have an NCUC
>>>>> >>> > submission
>>>>> >>> > as well, and would warmly encourage Ines, and anyone else, to
>>>>> keep
>>>>> >>> > working
>>>>> >>> > on this so we can have something to put in.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > As to the complaints about process - I think it's a legitimate
>>>>> point
>>>>> >>> > about
>>>>> >>> > leaving things too close to the deadline - and that going
>>>>> forward we
>>>>> >>> > should
>>>>> >>> > aim to get a coherent draft finalized at least 48 hours prior to
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>> > deadline for commentary on the lists. However, it's also worth
>>>>> noting
>>>>> >>> > that
>>>>> >>> > the NCSG draft was shared later than the NCUC version - so if
>>>>> people are
>>>>> >>> > ok
>>>>> >>> > with the process around that, I think it nullifies the procedural
>>>>> >>> > objections
>>>>> >>> > to our submitting an NCUC comment as well.
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Best,
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > Michael
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>> >>> > <bruna.mrtns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> I follow Ines's suggestion, we should at least try to improve
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>> >> proposed
>>>>> >>> >> comments as of this evening - the document is not ideal -  and
>>>>> >>> >> circulating
>>>>> >>> >> it tomorrow morning on the broader NCUC list before submitting
>>>>> it.
>>>>> >>> >> Despite
>>>>> >>> >> the fact that the NCSG's comment is indeed really good, I think
>>>>> the
>>>>> >>> >> program
>>>>> >>> >> could benefit from having one more input.
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> Best,
>>>>> >>> >> B
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> 2018-04-05 11:47 GMT-03:00 hfaiedh ines <
>>>>> hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com>:
>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>> >>> >>> I highly recommend and endorse sending the comment before the
>>>>> deadline
>>>>> >>> >>> but NOT the way it looks now. It needs some refinement.
>>>>> >>> >>> I will work on it tonight as I am still teaching. I believe it
>>>>> s very
>>>>> >>> >>> important we share our community opinion on the fellowship
>>>>> program.
>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>> >>> >>> Le jeudi 5 avril 2018, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <
>>>>> raquino at gmail.com> a
>>>>> >>> >>> écrit
>>>>> >>> >>> :
>>>>> >>> >>> > Dear EC
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > We have a very important input to be given by NCUC on the
>>>>> ICANN
>>>>> >>> >>> > Fellowship
>>>>> >>> >>> > Program
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > Claudio Lucena has been building up this document with
>>>>> members
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dzd70OBSr1dqE5-_FUFtt1M1
>>>>> 3CXpDlAkaycUWEIEZW4/edit
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > More information about this consultation, including extensive
>>>>> >>> >>> > material
>>>>> >>> >>> > on
>>>>> >>> >>> > the program is to be found here
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/fellowship-
>>>>> >>> >>> > community-process-review-2018-03-20-en
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > The initial deadline for this was 30th March
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > We have got a few days extension and we need to submit it by
>>>>> >>> >>> > tomorrow.
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > It will still be proofread before submission but I think we
>>>>> have
>>>>> >>> >>> > enough contributions, building up to 13 pages
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > As you have seen on the list, Ayden wants the document back
>>>>> to
>>>>> >>> >>> > NCUC-Discuss but I find unlikely we get a few more days
>>>>> extension to
>>>>> >>> >>> > do that.
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > So please vote on sending this response or not
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > If not, we will just not participate on this consultation by
>>>>> ICANN
>>>>> >>> >>> > organization
>>>>> >>> >>> >
>>>>> >>> >>> > Thanks
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>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> --
>>>>> >>> >> Bruna Martins dos Santos
>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>> >>> >> +55 61 99252-6512
>>>>> >>> >> Skype ID: bruna.martinsantos
>>>>> >>> >> @boomartins
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>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >> --
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Elsa Saade
>>>>> >> Consultant
>>>>> >> Gulf Centre for Human Rights
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>>>> --
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>>>>
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