[NCUC-EC] BC comments on our bylaws

[Mueller, Milton L]

I have reviewed the document and I think you did an excellent job of answering the comments. If I am correct, you would change only the title of section I to “mission and principles” and fix the typos in section 1B. I discovered and corrected another typo in that section, “educations” should be “educational.”


From: farzaneh badii [mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 6:42 PM
To: Mike <mkaranicolas at gmail.com>
Cc: David Cake <dave at davecake.net>; Exec. Comm <ncuc-ec at lists.ncuc.org>; Kathy Kleiman <kathy at kathykleiman.com>; Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu>
Subject: Re: [NCUC-EC] BC comments on our bylaws

All,

Here is the complete NCUC response to the public comments on its bylaws. I agreed to add a footnote and clarify the word "chapter" and change Constitution to Mission and Principles. Added Kathy and Milton here our veterans to see if they want to object to any of the changes or have better ideas. If not I will send this report to Benedetta tomorrow
:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i1TlvGnR8hBpW7BAjuXOYFMqOeSgzPK9Rgg047hkoLc/edit?usp=sharing

Farzaneh

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Mike <mkaranicolas at gmail.com<mailto:mkaranicolas at gmail.com>> wrote:
I agree.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 7, 2017, at 4:04 AM, David Cake <dave at davecake.net<mailto:dave at davecake.net>> wrote:
I agree with these comments. The Constitution should not be mentioning other groups, resources, etc. We have operating procedures for that, that are more adaptive and easier to change.

The change of wording to be more compatible le with the bylaws is worth considering, but makes no real difference at all.

But we should thank them for their comments. I think they were intended well.

David

On 7 Oct 2017, at 4:16 am, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com<mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>> wrote:

All,

We have not received many substantive comments on our bylaws by one by the Biz constituency.


I am preparing a response but:

1. We know about the typo they are referring to and it will be fixed

2. We specifically discussed the term "chapter" in our constituency and concluded that it should remain as is and there is no better replacement for it. We could do a foot note that we specifically mean ISOC chapters.

3. I don't think it's necessary to say mention that NCSG has two constitutency and provide a link to NCSG website because: 1. NCSG wiki link might change we can't update the bylaws. 2. NCSG has two constituencies at the moment it might have more constituencies in the future. We don't see the need to make that change and we have mentioned that NCUC is a constituency of NCSG.

4. EC and appointed member comment: I think they are referring to the paragraph that stipulates that if an EC member resigns or is removed less than 6 months to the election then EC can appoint a replacement until the election. I disagree with BC that we need to change this provision. When the duration is shorter than 6 months it serves the region better to have an EC member. Our members have voted on this and we keep it. We also suggest that to bring more democratic values to their processes, BC considers term limits with no exceptions.

5. Their first comment: they want us to change Constitution to Mission and Principles, to make it more aligned with other bylaws etc. "Accordingly, we suggest re-framing Section I. as “Mission and Principles.” "

6. As to this: "There are also certain important resources available to the NCUC that we recommend referencing in the charter. For instance, it may be helpful to note that the NCUC has an independent part-time Secretariat that assists on matters of voting and elections, and the ICANN Ombudsman is a available to provide input on challenging decisions."

While we have not mentioned the Secretariat (which has changed to full time and it doesn't solely cover our work and it's for NCSG as a whole) we have enumerated multiple resources available to NCUC in our operating procedures doc. Hence we don't see the need to change this as suggested.


I have a meeting with Benedetta at 15.00 UTC on Monday. If you would like to join and discuss the bylaws you are welcome to.




Farzaneh
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