[NCUC-EC] INPUT REQUIRED: FY18 NCPH Intersessional
David Cake
dave at davecake.net
Mon Jul 31 00:59:32 CEST 2017
> On 31 Jul 2017, at 2:37 am, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I would also like to present another idea
>
> The intersessional before or after ICANN Panama
The argument is, I think, that if it is directly before or after ICANN Panama it isn’t an intersessional as such, but effectively an extended meeting.
Also that it makes the trip very long, which is not popular.
David
>
> This would address all points mentioned before
>
> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Ines, I did take into account the fact that our Chair is in the US and
>> the travel ban effects.
>>
>> Of course it is essential and everybody wants that our Chair
>> participates onsite in the meetings.
>>
>> I do understand, though, that our decisions are not only for the next
>> intersessional, or even next year.
>>
>> Either we take a stand on visa and border friendly locations or we don't.
>>
>> Same things goes for costs. My support is for responsibility on
>> expenditures for these meetings.
>>
>> If I am supporting intersessional every year, I wish it to be done
>> responsibly so I can't support doing it in a country many people on
>> civil society can not get in. This is beyond a visa issue. And I
>> believe it's a temporary one, the travel ban can not continue forever.
>>
>> As for Canada, for most LAC visa can take up to 1 month, requires
>> expensive travelling to the South most of the times.
>> Even though the denial rate is almost non-existent the costs make it
>> impractical.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Renata
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Tatiana Tropina
>> <tatiana.tropina at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> I support intersessional once in two years. It was nice to attend the one in
>>> Reykjavik but I don't see any real need to make this annually.
>>> A note: Canada is not visa friendly. For example, they have no embassy in
>>> Germany and to get Canadian visa I have to travel to Vienna and wait there
>>> for several days. I won't call this friendly.
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Tanya
>>>
>>> On Sun 30. Jul 2017 at 01:21, hfaiedh ines <hfaiedh.ines2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Dear colleagues
>>>>
>>>> I do believe the intersessional is beneficial and should be held every
>>>> year.
>>>>
>>>> The US is not really visa friendly to say the least but at the same time
>>>> am thinking of colleagues like Farzaneh and am not seeing any advance on
>>>> that travel ban so far.
>>>>
>>>> This is really intricate question. I heard Canada is visa friendly
>>>> especially to those affected by the ban but am just thinking out loud, not
>>>> wuite sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 30, 2017 00:11, "farzaneh badii" <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Executive Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> No one other than Renata has responded to this email about
>>>>> intersessional. I need to respond by today. If you don't weigh in I will
>>>>> craft my response in a way that more or less reflects what our members think
>>>>> including Renata's suggestion.
>>>>>
>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>> <raquino at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> every year
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:38 PM, farzaneh badii
>>>>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> ok So Renata does not support going to the US for intersessional. How
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>> the rest of EC feel about this? Also, it is a done deal now and we are
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to intersessional but do you all agree that the meeting should be held
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>> other year and not every year?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>> <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't support US, any city.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:21 PM, farzaneh badii
>>>>>>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Renata
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does this mean you don't support holding it in LA?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro
>>>>>>>>> <raquino at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear EC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As I have previously mentioned on NCUC-Discuss list I do not find
>>>>>>>>>> Los
>>>>>>>>>> Angeles a visa or border friendly location.
>>>>>>>>>> LAC is the best alternative nearby.
>>>>>>>>>> Mexico is 3h away
>>>>>>>>>> Uruguay Montevideo is an ICANN office 12h plane away
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Renata
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 12:03 PM, Maryam Bakoshi
>>>>>>>>>> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please find below for your input.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maryam Bakoshi | SO/AC Collaboration Services Sr. Coordinator
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> S: Maryam.bakoshi.icann | T: +44 7737698036
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Benedetta Rossi <benedetta.rossi at icann.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 at 3:11 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org>, Greg Shatan
>>>>>>>>>>> <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> "Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, amack
>>>>>>>>>>> <amack at amglobal.com>, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tapani
>>>>>>>>>>> Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>, Maryam Bakoshi
>>>>>>>>>>> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>, Chantelle Doerksen
>>>>>>>>>>> <chantelle.doerksen at icann.org>, Ozan Sahin
>>>>>>>>>>> <ozan.sahin at icann.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: INPUT REQUIRED: FY18 NCPH Intersessional
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Joan, Farzaneh, Wolf-Ulrich, Andrew, Greg and Tapani,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Following initial positive feedback regarding holding the NCPH
>>>>>>>>>>> Intersessional meeting, I’m following up with you to seek your
>>>>>>>>>>> input
>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>> setting dates for the meeting. As noted in my previous email,
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> GNSO
>>>>>>>>>>> Council is holding a Strategic Planning Session in early 2018,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> Staff
>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>> been collaborating with GNSO Council Support Staff for planning
>>>>>>>>>>> purposes
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> see if consecutive meetings were an option. The Council
>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic
>>>>>>>>>>> Session
>>>>>>>>>>> will most likely take place in Los Angeles on the 29, 30 and
>>>>>>>>>>> 31st of
>>>>>>>>>>> January, so we are currently seeking NCPH Leadership input on
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>>>>> are you in favor to hold the NCPH Intersessional Meeting right
>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> GNSO Council Strategic Session, on Feb. 1-2 2018 in Los Angeles?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This would be directly beneficial for GNSO Councilors attending
>>>>>>>>>>> both
>>>>>>>>>>> meetings since it prevents them from needing to travel twice for
>>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>> separate short meetings, and the Los Angeles location will give
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> group
>>>>>>>>>>> additional opportunities to meet with ICANN Senior Staff, which
>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> key items flagged as important both in the 2017 NCPH
>>>>>>>>>>> Intersessional
>>>>>>>>>>> Meeting
>>>>>>>>>>> survey, and from community attendees directly to staff.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kindly confirm by Friday, 29 July 2017 whether you support for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> NCPH
>>>>>>>>>>> Intersessional to be held in Los Angeles on 1-2 February 2018
>>>>>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> GNSO Council Strategic Session that week.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have followed up with the CSG and NCSG Secretariat regarding
>>>>>>>>>>> election
>>>>>>>>>>> schedules, and note that the BC is the group who will have
>>>>>>>>>>> election
>>>>>>>>>>> results
>>>>>>>>>>> later in the year, with results to be posted around the 8th of
>>>>>>>>>>> December.
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting taking place in early February would still make it
>>>>>>>>>>> manageable
>>>>>>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>> planning standpoint if all other groups agree to submit traveler
>>>>>>>>>>> names
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> early as possible, and no later than early November 2017.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please note this is just a suggestion, and decisions are for the
>>>>>>>>>>> NCPH
>>>>>>>>>>> Leadership to take; however, if these dates don’t work we might
>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> move
>>>>>>>>>>> the NCPH Intersessional meeting to take place later in the year,
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> office location still of preference for logistical and budgetary
>>>>>>>>>>> reasons.
>>>>>>>>>>> The GNSO Council’s dates will be confirmed soon, so we’re hoping
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> NCPH
>>>>>>>>>>> leadership will be in a position to give their feedback at this
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> ensure we have enough time to plan accordingly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I look forward to receiving input regarding these dates and
>>>>>>>>>>> location
>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>> Friday, but in the meantime please don’t hesitate to contact me
>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> have any questions,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Benedetta
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Benedetta Rossi | Manager, Policy Support & Community Services
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> benedetta.rossi at icann.org | +33.610.38.27.02
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Benedetta Rossi <benedetta.rossi at icann.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Monday 17 July 2017 at 15:31
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Joan Kerr <joankerr at fbsc.org>, Greg Shatan
>>>>>>>>>>> <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> "Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben" <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, amack
>>>>>>>>>>> <amack at amglobal.com>, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tapani
>>>>>>>>>>> Tarvainen <ncsg at tapani.tarvainen.info>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: Mary Wong <mary.wong at icann.org>, Maryam Bakoshi
>>>>>>>>>>> <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>, Chantelle Doerksen
>>>>>>>>>>> <chantelle.doerksen at icann.org>, Ozan Sahin
>>>>>>>>>>> <ozan.sahin at icann.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: FY18 NCPH Intersessional
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Joan, Farzaneh, Wolf-Ulrich, Andrew, Greg and Tapani,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The purpose of this email is to initiate discussions regarding
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> NCPH
>>>>>>>>>>> Intersessional meeting and to see whether you would find it
>>>>>>>>>>> useful to
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> another NCPH Intersessional Meeting in FY18. Please let us know
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>> thoughts are about this asap. Feedback collected from 22
>>>>>>>>>>> attendees
>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> year’s meeting noted that 100% of respondents would be willing
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> attend
>>>>>>>>>>> another meeting, but please confirm as soon as possible if this
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you are to go ahead with a meeting, please note that we will
>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> submit a meeting request a minimum of 5-months prior to the
>>>>>>>>>>> event,
>>>>>>>>>>> meaning
>>>>>>>>>>> that if the meeting will be maintained in the January/February
>>>>>>>>>>> timeframe
>>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>> will need to submit details by the end of August 2017.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This includes:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Names of travelers;
>>>>>>>>>>> Location (office location strongly encouraged for budget,
>>>>>>>>>>> planning
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> organizational purposes)
>>>>>>>>>>> Date;
>>>>>>>>>>> Requirements on site.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Staff is aware that elections will be taking place, so the key
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> submit the bulk of traveler details as early as possible,
>>>>>>>>>>> limiting
>>>>>>>>>>> late
>>>>>>>>>>> submissions only to those pending election results.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please also note that the GNSO Council has requested a Strategic
>>>>>>>>>>> Planning
>>>>>>>>>>> Session via the Additional Budget Request Process for FY18 (see:
>>>>>>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/x/ydbRAw request number FY18-23)
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> most likely take place in the January timeframe in 2018, so
>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> consider is whether the NCPH Intersessional and GNSO Council
>>>>>>>>>>> Strategic
>>>>>>>>>>> Planning Session can be held in the same timeframe or not.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please
>>>>>>>>>>> note
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> the GNSO Council Strategic Session will be held over the course
>>>>>>>>>>> of 3
>>>>>>>>>>> days.
>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively, you might need to consider holding the NCPH
>>>>>>>>>>> Intersessional
>>>>>>>>>>> meeting later in 2018 for timing purposes to avoid overlaps with
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> GNSO
>>>>>>>>>>> Council Meeting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I look forward to your initial input asap so we can kick start
>>>>>>>>>>> preparatory
>>>>>>>>>>> work as required,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Benedetta
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Benedetta Rossi | Manager, Policy Support & Community Services
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> benedetta.rossi at icann.org | +33.610.38.27.02
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ICANN | Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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