[NCUC-EC] FY 2015 intersessional meeting -- request submitted
William Drake
william.drake at uzh.ch
Sat Mar 8 09:53:46 CET 2014
Another budgetary request of potential interest
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Metalitz, Steven" <met at msk.com>
> Subject: RE: FY 2015 intersessional meeting -- request submitted
> Date: March 7, 2014 at 10:25:35 PM GMT+1
> To: 'marie-laure Lemineur' <mllemineur at gmail.com>, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>
> Cc: William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de>, Avri Doria <avri at acm.org>, "cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com" <cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com>, "michaeladams at mayerbrown.com" <michaeladams at mayerbrown.com>, "bc-secretariat @icann" <bc-secretariat at icann.org>, "elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com" <elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com>, Kristina Rosette <krosette at cov.com>, "marilynscade at hotmail.com" <marilynscade at hotmail.com>, Tony Harris <harris at cabase.org.ar>, "tonyarholmes at btinternet.com" <tonyarholmes at btinternet.com>, "chris at andaluciaws.com" <chris at andaluciaws.com>
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> Please see attached. Thanks to all who contributed to this submission, including by supporting it.
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> Steve Metalitz
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> From: marie-laure Lemineur [mailto:mllemineur at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 11:23 AM
> To: Rafik Dammak
> Cc: Metalitz, Steven; William Drake; WUKnoben; Avri Doria; cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com; michaeladams at mayerbrown.com; bc-secretariat @icann; elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com; Kristina Rosette; marilynscade at hotmail.com; Tony Harris;tonyarholmes at btinternet.com; chris at andaluciaws.com
> Subject: Re: FY 2015 intersessional meeting? -- desperately seeking NPOC
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> Dear Steve and al.,
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> Sorry about the delay in responding. Rafik is absolutely right. We do support the idea originally and now the request. No objection what so ever. Thank you for the work done on this.
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> Best,
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> Marie-laure
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> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Steve,
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> yes please send the request.
> I think that Marie-Laure is travelling these days. Anyway since NPOC already endorsed the principle and I do believe they would support the intercessional meeting .So I think that we can proceed without problem. if there is any problem, they can object later.
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> Best Regards,
>
> Rafik
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> 2014-03-08 0:22 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com>:
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> Rafik I am happy to have you send it in or else I can do so. For my purposes we need to know one way or the other no later than 5 pm EST today.
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> I am a bit concerned about radio silence from NPOC and welcome your guidance on whether you are comfortable keeping their name on the submission based on their earlier endorsement in principle (predating the specific draft documents) that we should submit a united request for an intersessional.
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> Steve Metalitz
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> From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 9:49 AM
> To: Metalitz, Steven
> Cc: William Drake; WUKnoben; marie-laure Lemineur; Avri Doria; cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com; michaeladams at mayerbrown.com; bc-secretariat @icann; elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com; Kristina Rosette; marilynscade at hotmail.com; Tony Harris;tonyarholmes at btinternet.com; chris at andaluciaws.com
> Subject: Re: FY 2015 intersessional meeting?
>
> Hi Steve,
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> Thanks for the draft,
> for the submission, we can do that after the last call: You and me to send the budget request in order to highlight that is NCPH request?
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> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> 2014-03-06 23:39 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com>:
> OK, we will make that addition.
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> I think I have heard expressions of support for this submission from representatives of all but NPOC (though you previously supported in principle). Cintra, Marie-Laure, OK to reference NPOC support?
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> Please see updated template attached (as well as draft statement for ready reference). Consider this a last call for any edits as we need to submit tomorrow.
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> Thanks!
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> Steve Metalitz
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>
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> From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch]
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 4:52 AM
> To: WUKnoben
> Cc: Metalitz, Steven; Rafik Dammak; marie-laure Lemineur; Avri Doria; cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com; michaeladams at mayerbrown.com; bc-secretariat @icann; elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com; Kristina Rosette; marilynscade at hotmail.com; Tony Harris;tonyarholmes at btinternet.com; chris at andaluciaws.com
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> Subject: Re: FY 2015 intersessional meeting?
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> hard to argue with that, W-U!
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> Bill
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> On Mar 6, 2014, at 10:10 AM, WUKnoben <wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de> wrote:
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> My suggestion here is adding to the “Deliverables”:
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> - Improving Cross Community Interaction
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> Best regards
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> Wolf-Ulrich
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> From: William Drake
> Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 12:18 PM
> To: Metalitz, Steven
> Cc: Rafik Dammak ; marie-laure Lemineur ; Avri Doria ; mailto:cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com ; mailto:michaeladams at mayerbrown.com ; mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de ; mailto:bc-secretariat at icann.org ; mailto:elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com ; Kristina Rosette ; mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com ; Tony Harris ; mailto:tonyarholmes at btinternet.com ; mailto:chris at andaluciaws.com
> Subject: Re: FY 2015 intersessional meeting?
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> Thanks Steve. Maybe one substantive bit to put in, in the Subject Matter Expert Support box, would be that our desire is to have a highly interactive dialogue among House members on matters of common concern re: ICANN/GNSO internal procedures and policies as well as ICANN in the wider IG ecosystem, and accordingly we would not need much from staff experts. Of course, if we say we don’t want any then that might be misconstrued, so maybe it can be simply limited, e.g. like an overview/update on the former from Mary or Marika and on the latter from Theresa or Tarek….?
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> Bill
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> On Mar 5, 2014, at 2:38 AM, Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com> wrote:
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> Attached is a first cut at a semi-completed template to which our prose request (circulated this morning) could be attached. Your improvements/edits solicited.
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> Steve Metalitz
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> From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake at uzh.ch]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 11:23 AM
> To: Metalitz, Steven
> Cc: Rafik Dammak; ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org; marie-laure Lemineur; Avri Doria; Cintra Sooknanan (cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com); Michael D. Adams (michaeladams at mayerbrown.com); Wolf-Ulrich Knoben (wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de); bc-secretariat @icann; Elisa Cooper (elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com); Kristina Rosette; Marilyn S. Cade (marilynscade at hotmail.com); Tony Harris; Tony Holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com); Chris Chaplow (chris at andaluciaws.com)
> Subject: Re: FY 2015 intersessional meeting?
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> Hi
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> I had thought the two SGs were jointly submitting a formal request using the template? Presumably that’s what Xavier would say he needs...NCUC still supports…
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> https://community.icann.org/display/projfinadhocws/FY15+Special+Budget+Process
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> Best
>
> Bill
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> On Mar 4, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com> wrote:
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> Rafik, thanks for reminder. Attached is a draft I prepared and circulated yesterday to CSG. While not all have signed off on it yet, in the interests of time I suggest we use this as a starting point. I welcome reactions/edits from any of the addressees.
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> My thought was that this would be submitted by the March 7 deadline for budget requests, although it does not follow the same format and is less detailed. It would be wise to get ICANN’s agreement in principle before we spend too much time delving into logistical and agenda details.
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> However, I am certainly open to other approaches. Thanks in advance for your prompt review/feedback.
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> Steve Metalitz, IPC VP
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> From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 8:39 AM
> To: Metalitz, Steven
> Cc: ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org; William Drake; marie-laure Lemineur; Avri Doria (avri at acm.org); Cintra Sooknanan (cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com); Michael D. Adams (michaeladams at mayerbrown.com); Wolf-Ulrich Knoben (wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de); bc-secretariat @icann; Elisa Cooper (elisa.cooper at markmonitor.com); Kristina Rosette; Marilyn S. Cade (marilynscade at hotmail.com); Tony Harris; Tony Holmes (tonyarholmes at btinternet.com)
> Subject: Re: FY 2015 intersessional meeting?
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> Hi Steve,
>
> any update on this? we don't have confirmation if we should send separate or common request. we have short time before deadline but we can make it. I can work with Wolf and Michael on that.
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> Best,
>
> Rafik
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> 2014-02-08 1:23 GMT+09:00 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com>:
> Thanks for your quick and positive response, Rafik. I copy in the CSG executive committee, FYI, and also the point people from IPC (Michael Adams) and ISPC (Wolf-Ulrich Knoben) on preparing budget requests (will add the BC point person once that is confirmed). Please let Michael and Wolf know with whom at NCSG they should coordinate on this.
>
> Steve
>
> From: Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 11:08 AM
> To: Metalitz, Steven; ec-ncsg at ipjustice.org; William Drake; marie-laure Lemineur
> Cc: Avri Doria (avri at acm.org); Cintra Sooknanan (cintra.sooknanan at gmail.com)
> Subject: Re: FY 2015 interesessional meeting?
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> (cc NCSG EC, Bill Drake and Marie-Laure Lemineur)
>
> Thanks for the email,
> We started the discussion , we even discussed about possible dates. it is unfortunate that we cannot make it for this year.
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> Yes we can make the budget request for ICANN support to have the intercessional meeting for FY2015. I don't recall how we proceeded for the first intercessional meeting but we can for sure coordinating in order to ensure the request approval.
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> For the format and structure, I think the consensus was that we are looking for more joint working sessions instead of having ICANN staff briefing us, I mean that is up to us to set the agenda and topics.
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> Best Regards,
>
> Rafik
>
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> 2014-02-07 Metalitz, Steven <met at msk.com>:
> Dear Raifk, Avri and Cintra,
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> I hope this finds all of you well. I am writing to you as leadership of the NCSG. Of course please forward as appropriate if this question is better directed to others in your group.
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> I am writing at the request of the CSG executive committee, to get the NCSG’s views on requesting ICANN support (in the upcoming FY 2015 budget requests) for another intersessional meeting of the Non-Contracted Party House, probably around the January 2015 time frame.
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> As you know, there was an intersessional in January 2013 at the ICANN office in LA. Many of us in NCSG thought it was a useful initiative, and IPC, at least, asked in its FY 2014 budget request for ICANN to support an intersessional this year. That request was denied. I also recall some e-mail traffic a few months ago in which some participants both from CSG and NCSG revived the idea of having an intersessional meeting, but we were told that ICANN would not provide support for one this fiscal year.
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> If we do wish to see ICANN support an intersessional meeting for our house in FY 2015, the budget request process would be one logical vehicle for doing so. Hence this message. If there is interest within NCSG in preparing a joint budget submission on this point, or even in coordinating separate budget submissions, now would be the time to do so, since the submission deadline is a month away (March 7). If this is not something NCSG would like to pursue this year, then it would also be timely to know that.
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> I’ll also note that if we ask for another intersessional, it does not necessarily need to be structured and organized the same way as the LA intersessional last year (nor does it necessarily have to happen in January again). We are certainly open to suggestions for improving it. But we need to decide soon whether we will ask for one in the regular budget cycle this year.
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> Thanks and I look forward to your prompt response.
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> Steve Metalitz, IPC VP and CSG Executive Committee member
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