[NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting in DC Wed. 13 January
Rafik Dammak
rafik.dammak at gmail.com
Wed Dec 24 07:08:20 CET 2014
Hi Bill,
>
> What do you folks think we should cover, and who’d be interested in taking
> which piece? Would this be a good starting point? Topics to add? In
> total I don’t think we should talk ‘at’ them for more than 30 minutes if
> that before going to discussion, if we got even a third of the names on
> last year’s Fadi list I suspect we’d have robust engagement from visitors...
>
I guess some slides with some bullet points would be helpful . each will
have 5 minutes to speak?
>
>
> 1. IANA (Avri?)
> 2. Accountability (Matt?)
> 3. Human rights generally (Marilia?)
> 4. Privacy (Stephanie?)
> 5. FoE & 'Internet freedom’ as locals call it (Walid?)
>
> I guess that will be about the topics related to ICANN e.g. new gTLD?
>
> 1. Access to knowledge/IPR/trademark (Kathy?)
> 2. Development (Rafik?)
>
> I guess I can make it, the challenge is what can interest the USians from
DC about the topic, wondering about the mission of ICANN remit argument :)
>
> 1. IG generally, NMI, etc (Bill?)
>
>
>
Thanks to Brenden, I got the chance during LA meeting to join call of
roundtable organized by Human Rights Watch and present in 5 min, the latest
updates on ICANN. I can reach Cynthia Wong from HRW to get some names and
invite her too, Emma Llanso of CDT was really helpful to support about the
issue of whois&RDS.
Best Regards,
Rafik
>
> *From:* Rafik Dammak [mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com
> <rafik.dammak at gmail.com>]
> *Sent:* Monday, December 22, 2014 7:14 AM
> *To:* William Drake
> *Cc:* Milton L Mueller; Matt Shears; Walid AL-SAQAF; Marilia Maciel;
> Exec. Comm; Stephanie Perrin; Amr Elsadr; Edward Morris; Avri Doria; Kathy
> Kleiman; Joy Liddicoat; David Cake
> *Subject:* Re: [NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting
> in DC Wed. 13 January
>
> Hi,
>
> I guess the list will be shrinked somehow :) I don't think we can consider
> ISOC as civil society for example. we can try to invite those folks (anyway
> nobody talked about inviting CP80 anyway) and see if they can confirm their
> attendance. even if we don't expect CFR, heritage or Hudson to join us, at
> least we can let them and others know there is already group of CS people
> involved for years in ICANN and having expertise. just recall the letter
> sent about IANA transition (
> http://oti.newamerica.net/blogposts/2014/oti_sends_letter_to_congress_on_the_dotcom_bill_and_the_iana_transition-107726
> )
>
> as names , Joy suggested to check with APC members in USA, Kathy suggested
> Rebecca recommendations (and she wrote about NCUC before) . I can suggest
> Susan Aaronson .
>
> we have 3 weeks before this meeting and I would expect us to have some
> points to present to those folks.
> what would interest DC folks?
>
>
> Rafik
> 2014-12-16 17:47 GMT+09:00 William Drake <william.drake at uzh.ch>:
>
> Hi Milton
>
> Thanks for the input, sorry you’re shocked. As I said, we’re unlikely to
> be able fit all the all the people below in the room with us, and people
> are providing other names as well. So I was suggesting we prioritize and
> invite in tranches, in which case I’d think we’d start with people who
> might conceivably be open to getting involved with us, which is sort of the
> purpose of an outreach meeting. But I don’t care enough either way to
> debate it with you, so we could instead invite broadly and whoever RSVPs
> first and gets into the room, that’s who we have. Send any names you like
> from Cato, Heritage, CP80, House Republican staff, whatever, and I’ll pass
> their details to ICANN for the invite blast.
>
>
> Bill
>
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>
> Bill.
> It’s really wrong and even shocking for you to suggest dropping people
> from the list because you don’t like their ideology. I don’t see anyone on
> that list who doesn’t share some core values of NCUC regarding internet
> freedom.
> Either we are the noncommercial stakeholders group or we are something
> else. If the people involved are involved in nonprofit advocacy groups and
> are eligible for NCUC membership they should be invited, full stop.
>
> --MM
>
> *From:* ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org [
> mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org <ncuc-ec-bounces at lists.ncuc.org>] *On
> Behalf Of *William Drake
> *Sent:* Monday, December 15, 2014 9:20 AM
> *To:* Exec. Comm
> *Cc:* Matt Shears; Marilia Maciel; Stephanie Perrin; Amr Elsadr; Avri
> Doria; Edward Morris; Kathy Kleiman; Joy Liddicoat; David Cake
> *Subject:* [NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting in DC
> Wed. 13 January
>
> Hello
>
> As we’ve discussed, there will be an NCUC civil society outreach meeting
> in DC the morning of Wed. 14 January, after the NCPH meeting. Probably
> we’ll do 10-1pm, we’ll see. Think it will be in some law office, the ICANN
> office is not available. More on that later.
>
> Again, for the covered travelers, if you cannot get an afternoon or
> evening flight out on the 14th, ICANN will cover your hotel that night.
> Once Constituency Travel starts to get in touch on this and you’ve worked
> out your itinerary, please let me and Rob Hoggarth know if you will be
> needing hotel for that night.
>
> I’d like to do something similar to what we tried at the LA outreach
> meeting, but better—have a number of people teed up to speak 3 minutes each
> on some of the issues we work on, hold all Q&A until the end and then go to
> an integrative freewheeling discussion. Since the folks we will be
> inviting are generally pretty up to speed beltway mavens, we won’t need to
> do a lot of what is ICANN introductory nonsense…just get to what we’re
> doing and then have discussion and say if you’re into knowing more or maybe
> even joining please be in touch. We’ll sort this out going forward.
>
> Below is the list of people that the ICANN DC office invited to meet with
> Fadi when he was in DC in January for the State of the Net Conference. A
> number of these it’d be good to invite again, but some I’d drop, e.g.
> people from conservative think tanks and such who neither share our views
> nor are going to get involved with us. I don’t know exactly how many
> bodies the room we’ll have can accommodate, am waiting for an answer on
> that from Rob and Chris, but am guessing we’d want a mix like a dozen of us
> and two dozen external folks?
>
> Depending on the numbers, we may not be able to accommodate all the bodies
> we can name, or might have to do it in waves, i.e. invite a first tranche
> and if some say no then invite others. We’ll figure it out. What I want
> to know now is, are there DC public interest activists and friendly
> analysts you can think of who are not listed and might conceivably be
> interested in meeting with us to hear what we’re into etc? If so, please
> send me their names, affiliations and email addresses to fold into the
> list, and then we’ll sort out later who’s in our first tranche etc.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill
>
>
> 1. Brigner Paul Internet Society
> (ISOC) Regional Director North America Bureau
> 2. Solomon Brett Access Executive Director
> 3. Kimmelman Gene Public Knowledge President
> 4. Beach Tim Georgetown Director, Program in Science,
> Technology, and International Affairs
> 5. Hoffman Lance George Washington Director, Computer
> Science Department
> 6. Zaychenko Elizaveta American Enterprise Institute Tech
> Policy Intern
> 7. Eisenach Jeffrey American Enterprise Institute Director,
> Center for Internet, Communications, and Technology Policy
> 8. Nojeim Gregory Center for Democracy and
> Technology Director, Project on Freedom, Security & Technology
> 9. Lewis James Center for Strategic and International
> Studies Director and Senior Fellow, Strategic Technologies Program
> 10. DeNardis Laura American University Professor, School of
> Communications
> 11. Lordan Tim Internet Education
> Foundation Executive Director
> 12. Burger Eric Georgetown Research Professor of
> Computer Science and Director, Georgetown Center for Secure Communications
> 13. Dourado Eli George Mason Research Fellow, Tech
> Policy, Mercatus Center, George Mason Univ.
> 14. Levin Blair Aspen Institute Fellow, Aspen Institute
> 15. Atkinson Robert ITIF President, ITIF
> 16. Brown Kathryn ISOC CEO, ISOC
> 17. Kornbluh Karen CFR Senior Fellow for Digital Policy
> 18. West Darrell Brookings Vice President and Director,
> Governance Studies; Founding Director, Center for Technology Innovation
> 19. O'Connor Nuala CDT President & CEO
> 20. McDowell Robert Hudson Institute Visiting Fellow (and
> 5th panel member)
> 21. Lenard Thomas Technology Policy
> Institute President
> 22. Maciel Marilia Center for Technology and Society,
> Getulio Vargas Foundation Project Leader/Researcher/Assistant
> Professor of IP Law
> 23. Tim Maurer Open Technology Institute
> 24. Kehl Danielle New America Foundation
> 25. Sascha Meinrath New America Foundation
> 26. Holmes Wilson Fight for the Future
> 27. Pedro Abramovay Open Society Foundations
> 28. Yeh Jennifer Free Press Policy Counsel
> 29. Craig Aaron Free Press
> 30. Matt Wood Free Press
> 31. Rebecca MacKinnon New America and GNI
> 32. Catalina Botero OAS Special Rappourter
> 33. Kilic Burcu Public Citizen
> 34. Cerda Alberto Derechos Digitales and Georgetown
> Univ.
> 35. Daniel Weitzner MIT
> 36. Vasdev Samhir World Bank Innovation and Design
> Consultant, Open Technology Alliance
> 37. Pohl Rachel Aspen Institute
> 38. Rossini Carolina Public Knowledge
>
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