<div dir="ltr">Hi Bill,<div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><div><br></div><div>What do you folks think we should cover, and who’d be interested in taking which piece? Would this be a good starting point? Topics to add? In total I don’t think we should talk ‘at’ them for more than 30 minutes if that before going to discussion, if we got even a third of the names on last year’s Fadi list I suspect we’d have robust engagement from visitors...</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I guess some slides with some bullet points would be helpful . each will have 5 minutes to speak?</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><div><br></div><ol><li>IANA (Avri?)</li><li>Accountability (Matt?)</li><li>Human rights generally (Marilia?)</li><li>Privacy (Stephanie?)</li><li>FoE & 'Internet freedom’ as locals call it (Walid?)</li></ol></div></div></div></blockquote><div>I guess that will be about the topics related to ICANN e.g. new gTLD? </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><ol><li>Access to knowledge/IPR/trademark (Kathy?)</li><li>Development (Rafik?)</li></ol></div></div></div></blockquote><div>I guess I can make it, the challenge is what can interest the USians from DC about the topic, wondering about the mission of ICANN remit argument :) </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><ol><li>IG generally, NMI, etc (Bill?)</li></ol><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks to Brenden, I got the chance during LA meeting to join call of roundtable organized by Human Rights Watch and present in 5 min, the latest updates on ICANN. I can reach Cynthia Wong from HRW to get some names and invite her too, Emma Llanso of CDT was really helpful to support about the issue of whois&RDS.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><div><div><div><br>
<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="font-family:Verdana;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span> </span>Rafik Dammak [<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>]<span> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span> </span>Monday, December 22, 2014 7:14 AM<br><b>To:</b><span> </span>William Drake<br><b>Cc:</b><span> </span>Milton L Mueller; Matt Shears; Walid AL-SAQAF; Marilia Maciel; Exec. Comm; Stephanie Perrin; Amr Elsadr; Edward Morris; Avri Doria; Kathy Kleiman; Joy Liddicoat; David Cake<br><b>Subject:</b><span> </span>Re: [NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting in DC Wed. 13 January<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Hi,<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">I guess the list will be shrinked somehow :) I don't think we can consider ISOC as civil society for example. we can try to invite those folks (anyway nobody talked about inviting CP80 anyway) and see if they can confirm their attendance. even if we don't expect CFR, heritage or Hudson to join us, at least we can let them and others know there is already group of CS people involved for years in ICANN and having expertise. just recall the letter sent about IANA transition (<a href="http://oti.newamerica.net/blogposts/2014/oti_sends_letter_to_congress_on_the_dotcom_bill_and_the_iana_transition-107726" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">http://oti.newamerica.net/blogposts/2014/oti_sends_letter_to_congress_on_the_dotcom_bill_and_the_iana_transition-107726</a>)<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">as names , Joy suggested to check with APC members in USA, Kathy suggested Rebecca recommendations (and she wrote about NCUC before) . I can suggest Susan Aaronson .<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">we have 3 weeks before this meeting and I would expect us to have some points to present to those folks.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">what would interest DC folks?<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Rafik<u></u><u></u></p><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">2014-12-16 17:47 GMT+09:00 William Drake <<a href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>:<u></u><u></u></div><blockquote style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Hi Milton<u></u><u></u></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Thanks for the input, sorry you’re shocked. As I said, we’re unlikely to be able fit all the all the people below in the room with us, and people are providing other names as well. So I was suggesting we prioritize and invite in tranches, in which case I’d think we’d start with people who might conceivably be open to getting involved with us, which is sort of the purpose of an outreach meeting. But I don’t care enough either way to debate it with you, so we could instead invite broadly and whoever RSVPs first and gets into the room, that’s who we have. Send any names you like from Cato, Heritage, CP80, House Republican staff, whatever, and I’ll pass their details to ICANN for the invite blast.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Bill<u></u><u></u></p><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Milton L Mueller <<a href="mailto:mueller@syr.edu" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">mueller@syr.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><u></u> <u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Bill.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">It’s really wrong and even shocking for you to suggest dropping people from the list because you don’t like their ideology. I don’t see anyone on that list who doesn’t share some core values of NCUC regarding internet freedom.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Either we are the noncommercial stakeholders group or we are something else. If the people involved are involved in nonprofit advocacy groups and are eligible for NCUC membership they should be invited, full stop.</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">--MM</span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"> </span><u></u><u></u></div></div><div style="border-style:none none none solid;border-left-color:blue;border-left-width:1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt"><div><div style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(149,79,114)">ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</span></a> [<a href="mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank"><span style="color:rgb(149,79,114)">mailto:ncuc-ec-bounces@lists.ncuc.org</span></a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>William Drake<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 15, 2014 9:20 AM<br><b>To:</b> Exec. Comm<br><b>Cc:</b> Matt Shears; Marilia Maciel; Stephanie Perrin; Amr Elsadr; Avri Doria; Edward Morris; Kathy Kleiman; Joy Liddicoat; David Cake<br><b>Subject:</b> [NCUC-EC] Possible invitees for NCUC CS outreach meeting in DC Wed. 13 January</span><u></u><u></u></div></div></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Hello<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">As we’ve discussed, there will be an NCUC civil society outreach meeting in DC the morning of Wed. 14 January, after the NCPH meeting. Probably we’ll do 10-1pm, we’ll see. Think it will be in some law office, the ICANN office is not available. More on that later. <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Again, for the covered travelers, if you cannot get an afternoon or evening flight out on the 14th, ICANN will cover your hotel that night. Once Constituency Travel starts to get in touch on this and you’ve worked out your itinerary, please let me and Rob Hoggarth know if you will be needing hotel for that night.<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">I’d like to do something similar to what we tried at the LA outreach meeting, but better—have a number of people teed up to speak 3 minutes each on some of the issues we work on, hold all Q&A until the end and then go to an integrative freewheeling discussion. Since the folks we will be inviting are generally pretty up to speed beltway mavens, we won’t need to do a lot of what is ICANN introductory nonsense…just get to what we’re doing and then have discussion and say if you’re into knowing more or maybe even joining please be in touch. We’ll sort this out going forward.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Below is the list of people that the ICANN DC office invited to meet with Fadi when he was in DC in January for the State of the Net Conference. A number of these it’d be good to invite again, but some I’d drop, e.g. people from conservative think tanks and such who neither share our views nor are going to get involved with us. I don’t know exactly how many bodies the room we’ll have can accommodate, am waiting for an answer on that from Rob and Chris, but am guessing we’d want a mix like a dozen of us and two dozen external folks?<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Depending on the numbers, we may not be able to accommodate all the bodies we can name, or might have to do it in waves, i.e. invite a first tranche and if some say no then invite others. We’ll figure it out. What I want to know now is, are there DC public interest activists and friendly analysts you can think of who are not listed and might conceivably be interested in meeting with us to hear what we’re into etc? If so, please send me their names, affiliations and email addresses to fold into the list, and then we’ll sort out later who’s in our first tranche etc.<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Thanks<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Bill<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> <u></u><u></u></div></div><ol start="1" type="1" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-top:0in"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Brigner Paul Internet Society (ISOC) Regional Director North America Bureau<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Solomon Brett Access Executive Director<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Kimmelman Gene Public Knowledge President<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Beach Tim Georgetown Director, Program in Science, Technology, and International Affairs<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Hoffman Lance George Washington Director, Computer Science Department<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Zaychenko Elizaveta American Enterprise Institute Tech Policy Intern<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Eisenach Jeffrey American Enterprise Institute Director, Center for Internet, Communications, and Technology Policy<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Nojeim Gregory Center for Democracy and Technology Director, Project on Freedom, Security & Technology<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Lewis James Center for Strategic and International Studies Director and Senior Fellow, Strategic Technologies Program<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">DeNardis Laura American University Professor, School of Communications<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Lordan Tim Internet Education Foundation Executive Director<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Burger Eric Georgetown Research Professor of Computer Science and Director, Georgetown Center for Secure Communications<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Dourado Eli George Mason Research Fellow, Tech Policy, Mercatus Center, George Mason Univ. <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Levin Blair Aspen Institute Fellow, Aspen Institute<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Atkinson Robert ITIF President, ITIF<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Brown Kathryn ISOC CEO, ISOC<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Kornbluh Karen CFR Senior Fellow for Digital Policy<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">West Darrell Brookings Vice President and Director, Governance Studies; Founding Director, Center for Technology Innovation <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">O'Connor Nuala CDT President & CEO<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">McDowell Robert Hudson Institute Visiting Fellow (and 5th panel member)<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Lenard Thomas Technology Policy Institute President<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Maciel Marilia Center for Technology and Society, Getulio Vargas Foundation Project Leader/Researcher/Assistant Professor of IP Law<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Tim Maurer Open Technology Institute <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Kehl Danielle New America Foundation <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Sascha Meinrath New America Foundation <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Holmes Wilson Fight for the Future <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Pedro Abramovay Open Society Foundations <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Yeh Jennifer Free Press Policy Counsel<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Craig Aaron Free Press <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Matt Wood Free Press <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Rebecca MacKinnon New America and GNI <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Catalina Botero OAS Special Rappourter <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Kilic Burcu Public Citizen <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Cerda Alberto Derechos Digitales and Georgetown Univ. <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Daniel Weitzner MIT <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Vasdev Samhir World Bank Innovation and Design Consultant, Open Technology Alliance<u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Pohl Rachel Aspen Institute <u></u><u></u></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Rossini Carolina Public Knowledge <u></u><u></u></li></ol></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div 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