[NCUC-EC] NCUC @ IGF Bali Funding

William Drake wjdrake at gmail.com
Mon Sep 9 16:11:05 CEST 2013 

HI

On Sep 9, 2013, at 4:06 PM, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Yes, upon reflection, I'm inclined to think the support should go to a member, even though I shouldn't add more as speakers.
> 
> we are in agreement 
>> he/she won't be there for just workshop but also for outreach and being in touch with NCUC leadership present in IGF.
> 
> Right
> 
>> is it possible to check who is going already from NCUC? I am planning to come but not self-nominating for this funding.
> 
> Why not, do you have funding?  You are after all the remote moderator of the panel..
>  
> I don't have funding but I thought that is awkward to volunteer when I am ex-officio in EC .

Well, you have as much right to do so as anyone else, but ok, I hereby nominate you, in the sense of putting your hat in the ring.  I'm of course neutral among member candidates, although I do tend to think someone listed on the program and with an onsite function to perform for NCUC has a pretty good case... 
> 
>> for balance in workshops, I saw some unbalanced workshops approved :) you can accept google and peter participation and makig the workshop as roundtable format.
> 
> That's the idea.
> 
> cool to be agreement with the chair :)

Someone's gotta do it from time to time!  :-)

BD
> 
> Rafik 
> 
> B
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Rafik 
>> 
>> 
>> 2013/9/9 William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com>
>> Hi
>> 
>> Kathy has written to say that she can't come to Bali and would like to present remotely.  So that means we have a travel slot to allocate.
>> 
>> At present I have just four speakers lined up because I wanted to see how this issue evolves, so in principle can add up to two more.  This is probably advisable with Kathy presenting remotely, you never know if there'll be glitches.  The question is who.  I've had expressions of interest from Google and Peter Dengate Thrush, which would be good for the dialogue but leave us with a unduly skewed (Northern) demographic.  Another option might be to use the travel slot to bring someone from a developing country who's deep into this issue, although I had trouble identifying non-usual suspects for the Durban discussion.  And I don't know if ICANN would accept giving the support to a non-NCUC member, in which case the panel would then skew too heavily toward NCUC members….ay yi yi.
>> 
>> I'd appreciate your thoughts on how to proceed, since per previous I should notify ICANN soon so Constituency Travel can get started:
>> 
>> a)  Targeted Speaker Solution: identify someone and clear with ICANN; ideas?
>> 
>> b)  Targeted Non-Speaker Solution: identify someone from the NCUC clan who could come and help in other ways, e.g. outreach.  Could be EC, Council, or general members.  Self-nominations welcome.
>> 
>> What would not work is the y'all come approach of asking on ncuc-discuss hey who's interested, as this could result in a  flood of self-nominations, a complicated selection process, and some difficulty telling ICANN this person just has to be there.  We need to act relatively fast here and not turn it into a "goodie" positional good rather than a way to enhance NCUC's workshop and representation.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Bill
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:49 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hi Milton and Kathy
>>> 
>>> As I said the other day on ncuc-discuss,
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>>> On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:33 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> FY14-B05-04 
>>>> 42-NCUC FY14 Regular Budget Request (IGF Bali supplemental) Regular Track
>>>> $8,000  Approved, staff comment is "This request was granted as part of the Fast Track process and has been revised to reflect a two additional NCUC travel slots for the IGF meeting."
>>>> 
>>>> => We have inquired whether the funds could also be used more flexibly if need be, e.g split up differently and allocated in a manner to bring more people with partial support, TBD.
>>> 
>>> I spoke with Rob Hoggarth the other day for clarification on the deal here.  ICANN considers that the budget allocation  a) should be used to support the travel of people who really have to be in Bali for NCUC's closed generics workshop; and b) should be viewed as two integral "slots", meaning that the funds can't be divided up as we sometimes do for ICANN meetings, with one person getting the travel support and another getting the hotel, etc.  He is seeking clarification as to whether a per diem is also included.
>>> 
>>> As you two volunteered to speak in the workshop and are thus included in the approved IGF submission http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/wks2013/workshop_2013_accomplish_list_view.php?xpsltipq_je=253, a) means that unless you don't want or need it, the funding goes to you.  If by some chance you don't need it to come or prefer to stay home and speak via remote participation, the NCUC EC would then propose to staff that it be reallocated to someone else on the assumption they'd help with outreach and any workshop logistics etc.
>>> 
>>> So, what do you think, would you like to come to Bali (assuming the Indonesian government finally signs the host country agreement and the event is on), in which case I will notify Rob and Constituency Travel?  Please let me know ASAP.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> 
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William J. Drake
International Fellow & Lecturer
  Media Change & Innovation Division, IPMZ
  University of Zurich, Switzerland
Chair, Noncommercial Users Constituency, 
  ICANN, www.ncuc.org
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  www.williamdrake.org
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