[NCUC-EC] NCUC @ IGF Bali Funding

Mon Sep 9 16:06:42 CEST 2013

Hi Bill,

Yes, upon reflection, I'm inclined to think the support should go to a
> member, even though I shouldn't add more as speakers.
>
> we are in agreement

> he/she won't be there for just workshop but also for outreach and being in
> touch with NCUC leadership present in IGF.
>
>
> Right
>
> is it possible to check who is going already from NCUC? I am planning to
> come but not self-nominating for this funding.
>
>
> Why not, do you have funding?  You are after all the remote moderator of
> the panel..
>

I don't have funding but I thought that is awkward to volunteer when I am
ex-officio in EC .

for balance in workshops, I saw some unbalanced workshops approved :) you
> can accept google and peter participation and makig the workshop as
> roundtable format.
>
>
> That's the idea.
>
> cool to be agreement with the chair :)

Rafik

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> B
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> Best,
>
> Rafik
>
>
> 2013/9/9 William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com>
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Kathy has written to say that she can't come to Bali and would like to
>> present remotely.  So that means we have a travel slot to allocate.
>>
>> At present I have just four speakers lined up because I wanted to see how
>> this issue evolves, so in principle can add up to two more.  This is
>> probably advisable with Kathy presenting remotely, you never know if
>> there'll be glitches.  The question is who.  I've had expressions of
>> interest from Google and Peter Dengate Thrush, which would be good for the
>> dialogue but leave us with a unduly skewed (Northern) demographic.  Another
>> option might be to use the travel slot to bring someone from a developing
>> country who's deep into this issue, although I had trouble identifying
>> non-usual suspects for the Durban discussion.  And I don't know if ICANN
>> would accept giving the support to a non-NCUC member, in which case the
>> panel would then skew too heavily toward NCUC members….ay yi yi.
>>
>> I'd appreciate your thoughts on how to proceed, since per previous I
>> should notify ICANN soon so Constituency Travel can get started:
>>
>> a)  Targeted Speaker Solution: identify someone and clear with ICANN;
>> ideas?
>>
>> b)  Targeted Non-Speaker Solution: identify someone from the NCUC clan
>> who could come and help in other ways, e.g. outreach.  Could be EC,
>> Council, or general members.  Self-nominations welcome.
>>
>> What would not work is the y'all come approach of asking on ncuc-discuss
>> hey who's interested, as this could result in a  flood of self-nominations,
>> a complicated selection process, and some difficulty telling ICANN this
>> person just *has* to be there.  We need to act relatively fast here and
>> not turn it into a "goodie" positional good rather than a way to enhance
>> NCUC's workshop and representation.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 10:49 AM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Milton and Kathy
>>
>> As I said the other day on ncuc-discuss,
>>
>> On Aug 28, 2013, at 6:33 PM, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  FY14-B05-04
>> *42-NCUC FY14 Regular Budget Request (IGF Bali supplemental) Regular
>> Track*
>> $8,000  Approved, staff comment is "This request was granted as part of
>> the Fast Track process and has been revised to reflect a two additional
>> NCUC travel slots for the IGF meeting."
>>
>> => We have inquired whether the funds could also be used more flexibly
>> if need be, e.g split up differently and allocated in a manner to bring
>> more people with partial support, TBD.
>>
>>
>>   I spoke with Rob Hoggarth the other day for clarification on the deal
>> here.  ICANN considers that the budget allocation  a) should be used to
>> support the travel of people who really have to be in Bali for NCUC's
>> closed generics workshop; and b) should be viewed as two integral "slots",
>> meaning that the funds can't be divided up as we sometimes do for ICANN
>> meetings, with one person getting the travel support and another getting
>> the hotel, etc.  He is seeking clarification as to whether a per diem is
>> also included.
>>
>> As you two volunteered to speak in the workshop and are thus included in
>> the approved IGF submission
>> http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/wks2013/workshop_2013_accomplish_list_view.php?xpsltipq_je=253,
>> a) means that unless you don't want or need it, the funding goes to you.
>>  If by some chance you don't need it to come or prefer to stay home and
>> speak via remote participation, the NCUC EC would then propose to staff
>> that it be reallocated to someone else on the assumption they'd help
>> with outreach and any workshop logistics etc.
>>
>> So, what do you think, would you like to come to Bali (assuming the
>> Indonesian government finally signs the host country agreement and the
>> event is on), in which case I will notify Rob and Constituency Travel?
>>  Please let me know ASAP.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
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