[Ec-ncuc] [Ncu-exec] CSG budget requests from ICANN for FY2013

Tue Jan 17 16:54:34 CET 2012

Hi KK,

Since we are planning to have an event in Toronto, would we not want to
increase the amount requested for travel funding?

2012/1/17 Konstantinos Komaitis <k.komaitis at strath.ac.uk>

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> Please find attached two budget requests from ICANN ? one concerning
> outreach/travel support and the other one requesting support for a* *possible
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> Anyway these are just drafts and I would appreciate it if others could
> make any amendments and/or additions to these requests. Please note that
> the deadline for these to be submitted is *January 20**.*****
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> *From:* ncu-exec-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:
> ncu-exec-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of *Joy Liddicoat
> *Sent:* ??????, 12 ?????????? 2012 1:28 ??
> *To:* 'Non-Commercial Users - ICT Policy - Internet Governance - ICANN'
> *Subject:* Re: [Ncu-exec] CSG budget requests from ICANN for FY2013****
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> Hi ? apologies for the late entry on this discussion. I agree with you
> Robin ? a principled but pragmatic approach is best and, as Wendy suggests,
> perhaps we can prepare a motion for the Feb meeting in the light of this
> discussion and KK?s draft.****
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> As a relative newbie to this area, I do marvel at the running on the spot
> on this outreach issue (I say this having just read the transcript that KK
> sent through of the webinar ? very enlightening ? and your helpful
> backgrounder Bill). ****
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> My simplistic outreach strategy: ICANN constituencies and SGs better
> reflecting the diversity of the community they purport to serve ? bringing
> in more of the multiple stakeholders and diverse voices. I?d start with
> where the gaps are in those voices and then begin taking initiatives and
> steps in those directions. One or two budget requests that support a clear,
> transparent strategy (that is not patronage based, but makes some choices
> about where to start), seems feasible. ****
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> In relation to something in conjunction with an ICANN meeting ? I?m
> currently exploring ways to better link human rights advocates and the
> technical community in other areas in APC. Here, perhaps a thematic side
> event to an ICANN meeting on specific human rights topics we know are
> topical in ICANN and timely given current PDPs etc would be useful ? such
> as the WHOIS policy and law enforcement issues. I?d prefer this kind of
> event, rather than invited ambassadors or ?future leaders? (which can
> easily be patronage based).****
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> *From:* ncu-exec-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:
> ncu-exec-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of *Robin Gross
> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 January 2012 7:34 a.m.
> *To:* Non-Commercial Users - ICT Policy - Internet Governance - ICANN
> *Subject:* Re: [Ncu-exec] CSG budget requests from ICANN for FY2013****
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> I think there will be requests at the CSG level and also at the
> constituency level.****
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> I agree with trying to keep things like this managed at the constituency
> level, which I why I suggested NCUC should make a budget request to hold a
> meeting, conduct outreach, officer travel, etc.  One or two simple budget
> requests for very specific needs could help NCUC without leading to the
> MC-style patronage machine, which I also do not want to create.   ****
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> And for a budget request related to holding a conference in conjunction
> with an ICANN meeting, the support we would be requesting would be largely
> for meeting room space and technology support from ICANN (rather than
> direct cash).  But if we don't make the request now, it won't get built
> into ICANN's budget for Prague, Toronto, or the one after in Asia-Pacific.
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> We need to do something in-between incentivising a patronage machine and
> NCUC making no requests so all funds go to the other constituencies who
> have made their needs known through this budget request process.****
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> Robin****
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> On Jan 11, 2012, at 7:41 AM, Milton L Mueller wrote:****
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> Robin:****
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> Problem with that is that the CSG request comes at the SG level.****
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> If we request through NCSG we have NPOC to contend with. My frank view is
> that we don't want to build up NCSG into a Cade-style patronage machine.
> Which is why I responded the way I did to Stoll on the NCSG finance
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> NCUC should make similar budget requests (deadline 20 Jan).****
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