[Ec-ncuc] NCSG discussion list

Brenden Kuerbis bkuerbis
Wed Jul 13 19:05:24 CEST 2011


Would you mind forwarding you email to Avri?  She seems to think the NCUC
might be resistant to this change. I think it would help for her to see that
NCUC fully supports (and encourage) a SG-wide discussion of policy issues.

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:

> I think this is a potentially confusing and even damaging change that we
> have to handle carefully. ****
>
> Members need to know who they are communicating with. Proliferation of
> lists among casually connected members will confuse them and they are bound
> to fail to keep up with one of the two lists (NCSG v. NCUC). ****
>
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>
> IMHO, We want the ?discuss? list to be SG-wide. That is, we want all policy
> issues to be discussed openly among ALL SG members, and not confined to NCUC
> members only, and we don?t want NCUC members to start silo-ing off their
> conversations into a place where others are not accessible. So let?s make
> the new NCUC list an announce list only ? an official list of NCUC members
> for voting on any constituency list matters. In some way this will be a
> problem ? there may be times when the NCUC by itself wants to have a
> conversation about specific things, but I do fear splitting up our
> discussions before people are used to the fact that there are multiple
> constituencies. ****
>
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>
> Really, this multiple-tiered model is SUCH a fuckedup thing. It only could
> have been invented by full-time paid staff members with no clue as to how
> real world civil society people spend their time. ****
>
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>
> *From:* ec-ncuc-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:
> ec-ncuc-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of *Konstantinos Komaitis
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 13, 2011 12:20 PM
> *To:* 'Brenden Kuerbis'; EC-NCUC at ipjustice.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ec-ncuc] NCSG discussion list****
>
> ** **
>
> I think it is important we do?we need to have a separate list that is
> archived and all, but we need a separate list for internal purposes. What do
> other think?****
>
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>
> KK****
>
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> Dr. Konstantinos Komaitis,****
>
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>
> Senior Lecturer,****
>
> Director of Postgraduate Instructional Courses****
>
> Director of LLM Information Technology and Telecommunications Law****
>
> University of Strathclyde,****
>
> The Law School,****
>
> Graham Hills building, ****
>
> 50 George Street, Glasgow G1 1BA ****
>
> UK****
>
> tel: +44 (0)141 548 4306****
>
>
> http://www.routledgemedia.com/books/The-Current-State-of-Domain-Name-Regulation-isbn9780415477765
> ****
>
> Selected publications:
> http://hq.ssrn.com/submissions/MyPapers.cfm?partid=501038****
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> Website: www.komaitis.org****
>
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>
> *From:* ec-ncuc-bounces at ipjustice.org [mailto:
> ec-ncuc-bounces at ipjustice.org] *On Behalf Of *Brenden Kuerbis
> *Sent:* ???????, 13 ??????? 2011 5:16 ??
> *To:* EC-NCUC at ipjustice.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Ec-ncuc] NCSG discussion list****
>
> ** **
>
> I got no reply to this, so I assume we can go ahead with this renaming of
> the NCSG-NCUC list to the NCSG list.  The followup question is then - does
> NCUC want to initiate a separate list for internal constituency business?*
> ***
>
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Brenden Kuerbis <
> bkuerbis at internetgovernance.org> wrote:****
>
> Unless there are other suggestions, I'm going to start the process of
> renaming the NCSG-NCUC-Discuss list to the NCSG-Discuss list.
>
> Does anyone have thoughts about NCUC creating a separate list for its own
> constituency business?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brenden****
>
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Avri Doria* <avri at acm.org>
> Date: Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 7:26 PM
> Subject: NCSG discussion list
> To: Brenden Kuerbis <bkuerbis at internetgovernance.org>
>
>
> hi,
>
> What do we do to create an NCSG discussion list that does not have the NCUC
> name in it.  I would like to keep the same list, but I think we ned to
> rename it.
>
> As to whether NCUC wishes to have a seperate NCUC list, that is up to NCUC
> itself.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> a.
>
>
> ****
>
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