[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCSG collaboration with ALAC

[Rafik Dammak]

Hi Farzaneh,

thanks for the mention. to be accurate, the joint meetings predates my term
as far as I recall. In fact we got things done there, for example, the
 CCWG on Internet Governance was the result of a joint effort between ALAC
and NCSG in Buenos Aires meeting in 2013 and then evolved to full
cross-community working group when chartered by GNSO, ALAC, and ccNSO. We
also had joint efforts: as NCSG pushed for new gTLD applicant support in
GNSO (And there was a lot of resistance), we got ALAC support and had the
joint WG between GNSO and ALAC known as JAS WG. I think there were also
some joint statements before.

while I cannot explain why we didn't have joint meetings lately as it may
be the result of follow-up and/or scheduling issues, I see the invitation
for Barcelona meeting as a good thing and we can follow-up. As you
indicated, I think we have several areas of agreements on several topics,
while not for a few others and that is normal.

Best,

Rafik

Le mar. 2 oct. 2018 à 07:52, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com> a
écrit :

> Wolfgang brought up the collaboration of NCSG and ALAC and its improvement
> on a thread on NCUC mailing list, I thought I bring it up here and give it
> some thoughts.
>
> ALAC and NCSG have long been working with one another. This relation
> existed since Rafik was the chair of NCSG and he had maintained a
> connection with ALAC and worked with Olivier. (Rafik can add more details
> but this is what I heard was happening during Rafik time). When I was the
> chair of NCUC we started our joint NCUC/At Large outreach, that tradition
> is still in place until now. We also did an NCSG/ALAC outreach during the
> policy forum in Panama.
>
> No doubt there is some more work to be done. We have some convergences but
> we also have some commonalities. NCSG  invited them to NCSG open session in
> Barcelona which they kindly accepted and we will have a 30-minute
> discussion with them.
>
>
> I think what NCSG needs to do instead of thinking about who to just
> collaborate with, is what goals we are pursuing and then see where we can
> forge connections and relations. We diverge on some issues with ALAC and on
> some issues we have commonalities. We clarify these and see if we can
> support each other's work when we have commonalities.
>
> Some might think that because we criticize ALAC's governance or are not in
> favor of excessively funding ALAC efforts, we are against them. We are not
> against ALAC. We provide our opinion and feedback when asked (for example
> in case of the recent review or the budget). We initiate collaboration when
> there are commonalities and we do events with them. We should also remember
> that ALAC does not have solely a civil society position but an end user
> position which includes businesses etc. So we don't always hold hands.
>
>
> Best
>
> Farzaneh
>
>
>
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