[NCUC-DISCUSS] IGF 2018 Workshop Proposal Submitted

[Renata Aquino Ribeiro]

Hi

The official deliberation channel is EC list. Please refer to our new
bylaws in case of any questions.

NCUC does have a Skype channel and it's called NCUC 2018 - General Chat.

Those willing to join, please email chair at ncuc.org w/ your ID

And it is as it's called - a chat channel, not a deliberation one.

Unfortunately Skype is not a very effective tool. I find that other
apps are better for chat nowadays. IG Hub channel is one I'd
recommend.

Chat is different from secret deliberation channel.

EC does chat with each other too but again, Skype is so old.


On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 3:13 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
> Hi Renata,
>
> Are there any "unofficial" deliberation channels that the NCUC Executive
> Committee uses? I have not suggested that the official archives have been
> tampered with — I have asked a very plain question, when you deliberate
> off-list, where does this happen, and what decisions does the EC think are
> acceptable to happen, say, on Skype, where most members will not be able to
> review the decision making trail?
>
> Regards,
>
> Ayden
>
> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 20:07, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <raquino at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi Ayden I think you are familiar with how list servers work and how they
> record messages automatically. If one message is to be removed from the
> archives it is a very complicated process. So the archive is recording all
> messages exchanged by the EC which refer to deliberation process. That is
> the official channel of deliberation of the EC and the messages that count.
> The time constraint is referred to on the thread of EC approval, which is
> deadline of IGF, 6 June. Best, Renata On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 2:59 PM, Ayden
> Férdeline wrote: > Hi Renata, > > What were the "time constraints"? The
> proposal submission deadline that was > known two months in advance? > > The
> archives seem incomplete and often refer to taking conversations > off-list.
> How frequently does this happen, and how does the Executive > Committee
> reach the decision to take a conversation offline and away from > membership
> review? Do these off-list conversations happen behind a closed > archive, or
> through another medium? > > Thank you, > > Ayden > > Sent from ProtonMail
> Mobile > > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 19:51, Renata Aquino Ribeiro > wrote: >
>> Dear all All the processes done by the Executive Committee can be followed
>> up on our open archives list >
> https://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-ec Any work passed on >
> this list for membership review is collective work and can receive inputs up
>> to when the proposal is finalized. Indeed the proposal could have been
> sent > with more time but the EC was alerted that there were time
> constraints and > voted for it knowingly. This proposal received majority of
> the EC and > (should it be approved) members can still make suggestions up
> to the day of > the presentation. NCUC remains open for suggestion from
> members on actions > and projects that help us focus back on policy work
> done in ICANN. Best, > Renata
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