[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC at the Africa Internet Summit session proposals

Tue Feb 27 21:22:26 CET 2018

Thanks for responding, Liz, and thanks for taking ownership of this proposal. I've been in your shoes before, and it is hard when there is not a lot of feedback coming in -- and it is equally frustrating when the only feedback coming in sounds critical.

I understand the objective of the session, and it's an important one. Outreach activities like the one you've proposed are critical to us maintaining a sustainable source of volunteers from diverse regions. The challenge is, how do we make sure said persons are well versed in ICANN policy issues and able to effectively engage with the other stakeholder groups?

That's what I'm trying to get at. It's not enough to get someone to sign up to our mailing list -- we are really good at that at the moment. How do we actually get people active, participating in working groups, analysing information, and taking the pen on comments? That's why I want to make sure we have the right people present. I don't see a lot of NCUC people who are involved in our policy work at the moment among the speakers. I see ICANN org, I see ISOC, I see NPOC -- but we'd be using precious (and limited) NCUC resources to send you to Senegal.

Best wishes,

Ayden

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On 27 February 2018 6:38 PM, Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Ayden,
> The text has been changing with the inputs I have been getting which I have accepted most of it, until I do the final editing. I guess the text you're referring to is also on the last para of the NCUC home page? https://www.ncuc.org/what-we-do/
>
> The members in the proposals are active in the DNS policy work and most are NCUC members. They will be attending the AIS, as they had responded to call for presenters in the first email. Would be happy to hear if NCUC is planning to send other members.
>
> To get specific on whats going to be presented, this workshop tries to get participants in the AIS who are not in NCUC and those who are new here. So this would include the roles of stakeholder groups, NCUC mission and strategies and most important how they can get involved and who they can with.
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 3:54 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I guess I don't have an issue with the proposal itself, because the language is extremely similar to the text which appears in our brochure and in our onboarding materials, but after reading the proposal I am left unsure as to what content and suggestions are actually going to be presented to the audience.
>>
>> Are the team on the ground presenting this going to include NCUC members who are currently active in DNS policy work?
>>
>> "The aim of this session is give practical pointers on how civil society organizations and individuals in the region can get involved and make meaningful participation in DNS policy."
>>
>> What are the pointers that are going to be put forward?
>>
>> Thanks for clarifying,
>>
>> Ayden
>>
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>> On 27 February 2018 10:40 AM, Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Olga and Arsene,
>>>
>>> @Arsene, the session itself is on capacity building, both for folks who have started engaging and those who haven't. I think it is covered in the 3rd para of the abstract.  No?
>>>
>>> Thanks again, reaching out to Seun.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Liz,
>>>> Thank you for starting this.
>>>>
>>>> I have been staring at this proposal and had a lot of thoughs on how we can highlight the work we are doing at the NCUC and recruit more interests in our work at IAS. I would love to see a proposal that will be speaking and encouraging people (especially those non techies who might be there) to be involved in the domain name policy and why they should join the NCUC if they want to be engaged in the future of the Internet.
>>>>
>>>> At IAS as for other AFRINIC meetings, there are participants, especially those who are joining as part of their fellowship program who don't know yet where to go and for whom AIS is their first Internet governance related conference/meeting. But all of them have a desire to learn more on how they can be part of the future of the Internet. I have been part of this fellowship so I know that feeling.
>>>>
>>>> Can we work out something, a proposal that will encourge them to join the NCUC and start their DNS policy journey with us? At AIS, they will talk much about numbers and not everyone who is not a techie will get that but if they attend a civil society session where one presents them an opportunity to be part of the DNS industry, i am sure they will find it interesting and may decide to join our work. Who knows? We may be in a position to recruit some interesting members there.
>>>>
>>>> I am sorry i cannot help more on rephrasing or reworking this proposal but just wanted to share this as i believe this is one of the ways we can use this event as a true outreach opportunity and therefore, use this CROP opportunity in a meaningfull way.
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, I would encourage you to reach out to Seun (copied here) who is an NCUC member and on the board of Afrinic who can be on your panel and speaking about something like "Why number folks can be involved in the names industry". He is in a good position to speak about the NCUC and what we stand for or anything else civil society participation in ICANN (also being heavily involved in ALAC with whom we have things in common).
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for not being so much helpful here :)
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Arsene
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------
>>>> *[Arsène Tungali](http://about.me/ArseneTungali)*
>>>> Co-Founder & Executive Director, [Rudi international](http://www.rudiinternational.org),
>>>> CEO, [Smart Services Sarl](http://www.smart-serv.info), [Mabingwa Forum](http://www.mabingwa-forum.com)
>>>> Tel: +243 993810967
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>>>> [2015 Mandela Washington Felllow](http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html) (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF [Brazil](http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors) & [Mexico](http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors)) - [AFRISIG 2016](http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/) - [Blogger](http://tungali.blogspot.com) - ICANN's [GNSO Council](https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm) Member.AFRINIC Fellow([Mauritius](http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners)) - [IGFSA Member](http://www.igfsa.org/) - Internet Governance - Internet Freedom.
>>>>
>>>> Check the 2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC report ([English](http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234)) and ([French](http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242))
>>>>
>>>> 2018-02-26 21:39 GMT+02:00 Olga Kyryliuk <olga_kyryliuk at ukr.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear Liz,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for taking the initiative and preparing a draft proposal. It is truly important to represent NCUC at events like AIS in order to raise awareness and let others know what we do. I hope others who feel this is important will join in supporting or commenting while we still have a bit of time before the deadline.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Olga Kyryliuk
>>>>>
>>>>> 19 февраля 2018, 14:20:40, от "Liz Orembo" <lizorembo at gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear NCUC Members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NCUC Africa is preparing proposals for the Africa Internet Summit. Here is a draft for one. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-c6tsMtWCxBDHtbFL9OsGy6Uuz1rzpx2qpgARR4SQbg/edit
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deadline for submission is 9th March, lets try input/comment directly to the doc within the week.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lastly, if you're planning to attend the AIS and would be interested to participate as a speaker, please let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>> Liz.
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