[NCUC-DISCUSS] [Meeting Report] PIR Advisory Council

[Martin Pablo Silva Valent]

Farzi,
	Yes, NPOC was denied the validation because they couldn’t present a state-government  written paper saying they were formal NGO entity of its own. As Foly said, there might be good reason to make this difference, but I think is debatable when you try to create a NGO space that might be biased toward a specific way of organizing civil society, is debate worth the having.

David,
	Civil society should be present  on take down process, they tend to be systematically abused by right holders or enforcement agencies, regardless of the context.

Cheers,
Martín

> On Oct 12, 2017, at 4:27 AM, David Cake <dave at DAVECAKE.NET> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this useful report. 
> 
> SCADR was shelved, but it really should never have for to the stage it did. I hope they are now much more aware of the need to involve civil society community in registry policy issues, and the role of the AC in potentially facilitating that, 
> 
> Perhaps a was to consider a next step might be at least some civil society involvement in other takedown policy? Just because we might agree that they need a takedown process for e.g. tech abuse or child abuse material doesn’t mean we may not have useful comments on the details of the policy, and once that is established we might consider if there is a path to move forward on more controversial issues.
> 
> David
> 
>> On 12 Oct 2017, at 6:16 am, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> Here is my brief note of PIR meeting. Please note that some aspects of the meeting were confidential so I cannot report on them. PIR is the registry for .org and .NGO and NCUC get to appoint an AC member to represent NCUC. 
>> 
>> Here is the brief: 
>> 
>> - The advisory council role was discussed. It was agreed that the AC has to have an active role and provide recommendations on various issues related  to PIR 
>> 
>> - I emphasized on stronger and enhanced communication between Staff, Board and Advisory Council.
>> 
>> - We raised the issue of GDPR and I relayed Ayden's questions. PIR will come up with a plan to comply with GDPR. PIR is also active in the RDS group. Staff advised us that they are open to suggestions and recommendations with this regard.
>> 
>> - PIR discussed its abuse and take down policy. It emphasized that its abuse and take down policy is predominantly technical unless there are obvious child abuse websites which will be taken down. 
>> 
>> - SCADR is shelved But they want to have a dialogue about it and they want to know how to re-open the issue in the future if they need to. My impression is that the issue is closed for the moment and they are asking the AC to advise them on how to seek public consultation on any policy issue.
>> 
>> - Since AC was advised about SCADR very late, we raised the point that this should not have happened and in the future, there should be more briefing of AC. Fortunately, there is now a Board liaison to AC and I also asked if we could be observers of the Board meetings. 
>> 
>> 
>> - The meeting also focused on .NGO and how to encourage more domain registration in .NGO. Here is the PIR toolkit  for NGOs http://toolkit.ngo/ <http://toolkit.ngo/>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best 
>> Farzaneh
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