<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Farzi,<div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Yes, NPOC was denied the validation because they couldn’t present a state-government written paper saying they were formal NGO entity of its own. As Foly said, there might be good reason to make this difference, but I think is debatable when you try to create a NGO space that might be biased toward a specific way of organizing civil society, is debate worth the having.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David,</div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Civil society should be present on take down process, they tend to be systematically abused by right holders or enforcement agencies, regardless of the context.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Martín</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 12, 2017, at 4:27 AM, David Cake <<a href="mailto:dave@DAVECAKE.NET" class="">dave@DAVECAKE.NET</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks for this useful report. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">SCADR was shelved, but it really should never have for to the stage it did. I hope they are now much more aware of the need to involve civil society community in registry policy issues, and the role of the AC in potentially facilitating that, </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Perhaps a was to consider a next step might be at least some civil society involvement in other takedown policy? Just because we might agree that they need a takedown process for e.g. tech abuse or child abuse material doesn’t mean we may not have useful comments on the details of the policy, and once that is established we might consider if there is a path to move forward on more controversial issues.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 12 Oct 2017, at 6:16 am, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" class="">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">Dear All,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">Here is my brief note of <span class="gmail-il">PIR</span> meeting. Please note that some aspects of the meeting were confidential so I cannot report on them. PIR is the registry for .org and .NGO and NCUC get to appoint an AC member to represent NCUC. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">Here is the brief: </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- The advisory council role was discussed. It was agreed that the AC has to have an active role and provide recommendations on various issues related to <span class="gmail-il">PIR</span> </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- I emphasized on stronger and enhanced communication between Staff, Board and Advisory Council.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- We raised the issue of GDPR and I relayed Ayden's questions. <span class="gmail-il">PIR</span> will come up with a plan to comply with GDPR. <span class="gmail-il">PIR</span> is also active in the RDS group. Staff advised us that they are open to suggestions and recommendations with this regard.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- <span class="gmail-il">PIR</span> discussed its abuse and take down policy. It emphasized that its abuse and take down policy is predominantly technical unless there are obvious child abuse websites which will be taken down. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- SCADR is shelved But they want to have a dialogue about it and they want to know how to re-open the issue in the future if they need to. My impression is that the issue is closed for the moment and they are asking the AC to advise them on how to seek public consultation on any policy issue.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- Since AC was advised about SCADR very late, we raised the point that this should not have happened and in the future, there should be more briefing of AC. Fortunately, there is now a Board liaison to AC and I also asked if we could be observers of the Board meetings. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:12.8px">- The meeting also focused on .NGO and how to encourage more domain registration in .NGO. Here is the <span class="gmail-il">PIR</span> toolkit for NGOs <a href="http://toolkit.ngo/" target="_blank" class="">http://toolkit.ngo/</a></div><div class="gmail-yj6qo gmail-ajU" style="margin:2px 0px 0px;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"><div id="gmail-:1bj" class="gmail-ajR" tabindex="0"><img class="gmail-ajT" src="https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif"></div><div id="gmail-:1bj" class="gmail-ajR" tabindex="0"><br class=""></div><div id="gmail-:1bj" class="gmail-ajR" tabindex="0"><br class=""></div><div id="gmail-:1bj" class="gmail-ajR" tabindex="0">Best </div></div></div><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class="">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div>
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