[NCUC-DISCUSS] Recording and Attendance: NCUC Joburg Outreach Planning Call 02 May 2017

[Arsène Tungali]

Hi everyone,

I am really sorry I was not able to join this important call. But just took
some time to read the chat.

I noted a couple very important points/elements that we should consider as
we get ready for this outreach event. I am planning to be there and willing
to support.

For an outreach event, apart from making sure we mostly speak NCUC and our
work (to use our ressources the most), we should also take time to hear
from some members about their experiences and benefit they gained from
being NCUC members. Such testimonies attract attention and can help people
who wanna join understand the NCUC in a practical way. Of course when
presenting the NCUC, we will need to state what make us different from
other groups.

I had a quick look at the google doc and would encourage the role play if
we have a good moderator to run it on Second day. As someone mentionned,
role plays help people understand more an issue than hearing from a panel.
When you practice something, you feel more connected to it. That's my way
of seing things.

Someone mentionned the ISOC's collaborative leadership exchange, I believe
that was Ayden. I always enjoy it and will never miss that day-long session
when attending the IGF. When the conductor is doing it well, you feel
connected to the topics he is helping you discuss. I believe if we have
someone in the NCUC who can lead this, this will be fantastic. This can be
merged with the role play session or the latter can be added during this
type of session.

Lastly, for newcomers part of the Fellowship program, since this is a
Policy meeting, there won't be those morning sessions as usual where they
get the opportunity to hear from all AC/SO representatives to make their
minds on which one to join. An all day session for them is scheduled on
Sunday and that will be all for them. Just wanted to point this out, maybe
important to know.

NCUC should have a well planned outreach meeting, well advertised to
attract new members to join.

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2017-05-04 15:28 GMT+02:00 Yolanda Mlonzi <mamiyaomhle at gmail.com>:

> Hi Maryam and all,
>
> Thanks to all of you who participated in this meeting and the draft agenda
> looks great.
>
> I love the policy practice suggestion, from my experience with the African
> School on Internet Governance (AfriSIG) this session is always a fan
> favourite! Also a great way for participants and newcomers to familiarise
> themselves with key policy issues & how  processes play out.
>
>
> Excited to attend.
>
> Yolanda.
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Maryam Bakoshi <maryam.bakoshi at icann.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please find below attendance and recording of the NCUC Johannesburg
>> Outreach Planning Call, of 02 May 2017.
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>> *Attendance*: Ayden Ferdeline, Bruna Santos, Farzaneh Badii,
>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro, Tapani Tarvainen, Thato Mfikwe, Stephanie Perrin,
>> Tatiana Tropina, Ines Hfaiedh
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>> *AC Recording URL*: https://participate.icann.org/p4m8vxbqans/
>> <https://participate.icann.org/p4m8vxbqans/?OWASP_CSRFTOKEN=d2528454b9e1fc78ef23605c6bb09a127bae02b9f04f3574b80fb1eee75451b3>
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>> *AC Chat:*
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>> Ayden Férdeline: hi all
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome to the NCUC Outreach Planning call
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: welcome Ayden & Bruna
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>> Bruna Santos: Hello, Maryan and Ayden!
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Farzi
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>> Farzaneh Badii: Thanks Maryam
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>> Farzaneh Badii: Here is the program we will work on
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>> Farzaneh Badii: https://docs.google.com/docume
>> nt/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7nHGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit?usp=sharing
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>> Farzaneh Badii: I was hoping that we get some participants from Africa to
>> discuss how we should approach topics
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>> Farzaneh Badii: Maryam we wait a bit for Thato
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>> Farzaneh Badii: he said he could make it
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: Ok great, thank you
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>> Ayden Férdeline: i'll send a quick message to Stephanie to see if she is
>> online
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>> Ayden Férdeline: i can hear Maryam
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Hi there
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I think you have to count w/ folks coming a bit
>> late
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: it's university, it's far
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Renata
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Thanks Maryam
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: should I reach out to the whatsapp people for this
>> meeting? Nadira?
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: which bullet? can't scroll
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: ah sorry in my face :(
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: So an outline - local experts (academia), regional
>> CSOs (APC + partners), local partners (zadna + thato's references)
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>> Farzaneh Badii: oh that's interesting. for privacy that would be perfect
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: GJM, Lucien Pierce, Sizne Snall ka Mutze
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: UNISA one of the them
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Bruna, I think we need to find out who the major
>> organization there is but I don't think CGI can help us. Maybe Lusnic can
>> send in someone from Angola
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>> Tapani Tarvainen: Apologies for joining late.
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>> Bruna Santos: Yes, @renata
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Hi Tapani
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Tapani & Thato
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Sizwe apparently is a BRICS cyberlaw scholar,
>> quite interesting
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>> Bruna Santos: they're all the names that Claudio mentioned to us.
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: which is the doc address again?
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>> Farzaneh Badii: https://docs.google.com/docume
>> nt/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7nHGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: tks Farzi
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I think would be good to have at least 1 regional
>> speaker in any roundtable
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: at least as moderator
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Stephanie
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>> Ayden Férdeline: :-)
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Sorry to be late, my email has been down at the
>> university since Friday, so I am missing a lot
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>> Thato: internet shutdowns, taking from AFRINIC policy directives and role
>> of non commercial constituency role are proposed prog items
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: indeed
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: super
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>> Bruna Santos: Agreed! would be amazing
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I think it is something we can do in the end of
>> the day
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>> Ayden Férdeline: I think confusion would arise, unfortunately.
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: a general debate about how things interconnect
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>> Thato: Cant hear clearly connectivity problem on my side.
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: ICANN doesnt do that but its important to deal w/
>> human rights issues in domain name policy too
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i think that would be a good message
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: true
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>> Ayden Férdeline: I think we need to keep the message simple, and focus on
>> what we want out of the participants, i.e. where do you we want people
>> volunteering in our activities?
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>> Thato: As much info be specific as possible it also needs relevance
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: A setting the scene would be good
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: yes agree on thato
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>> Stephanie Perrin: That would be great, and I agree we need an MC
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>> Bruna Santos: +1
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: Sorry we dont have one on this call!
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: I mean dial out
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>> Thato: wanted clarity on what I need to do. The venue has been booked.
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: Thato there is a mic button on the main Tab(s)
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: if you press that button it should connect your audio
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Short day Friday for those of us flying in/...
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>> Thato: Full day on Saturday and short day on Friday.
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>> Stephanie Perrin: I dont know about you youngsters, but I am going to
>> need a nap
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>> Ayden Férdeline: For local participants, I think Friday is a business day
>> so they might be able to get out of the office or classroom, whereas
>> Saturday is taking up their weekend....
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Lets get them used to ICANN participation.....weekends,
>> what are weekends??
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: C'mon stephanie, you're way more energetic than us
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>> Stephanie Perrin: You are all very sweet, but I can assure you after 26
>> hours economy I am going to look like death warmed over.....
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i agree local participants ditching work to go to
>> our outreach would prefer an all day
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>> Thato: As long as we have refreshments and keep the prog interesting,
>> especially on Friday we will get sufficient support
>>
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>> Stephanie Perrin: I think we need to get our mentee, buddying system
>> working better.
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>> Tapani Tarvainen: South African wines are very good. :-)
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>> Ayden Férdeline: very good point Tapani ;-)
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Maybe we could spend some time asking them what kind of
>> help they would appreciate to get going, ask about comparable  experiences
>>
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>> Stephanie Perrin: I am happy to talk about privacy
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: which part?
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>> Ayden Férdeline: i am happy to talk
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>> Stephanie Perrin: and council if there are no other councillors rrrre
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>> Stephanie Perrin: there
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>> Farzaneh Badii: https://docs.google.com/docume
>> nt/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7nHGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit
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>> Ayden Férdeline: yes. positive, upbeat, exciting.
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>> Thato: I saw my name as a speaker on the draft google doc, will it be
>> around my experience in NCUC, position of local chapter or what? Second day
>> would be good with panel discussions.
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>> Bruna Santos: I am very new to NCUC, but i'd be glad to participate!
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: ok tks
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: when would be the lightning talks?
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>> Farzaneh Badii: no you are right
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Hi all
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Sorry - I was at the jurisdiction meeting. Happy it
>> ended early and I can join
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Ah ok clearer now
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Highly agree
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I like the anecdote too
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Hi TT!
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I can also work on a visual of our members
>> accomplishments, the Internet Freedom Forum twitter coverage by Benjamin
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: NCUC workshops in IGF
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: WSIS and other images
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>> Bruna Santos: @renata maybe a map of events that NCUC has participated
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>> Thato: Regarding ZADNA they have been very busy but they agreed that they
>> will be participating in the outreach. With the intro of DotAfrica they
>> will pull crowds. sorry to take you back.
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>> Tatiana Tropina: A map should be quite impressive
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Maybe it is a question that anriette can help us
>> with....
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: agree a map would be super cool
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: brasilia will be in the center of the world as
>> always haha
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>> Bruna Santos: I can help you guys with that!
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Renata :D
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>> Bruna Santos: ok!
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>> Stephanie Perrin: I think we need to be really clear that content and
>> bandwidth are things we cannot help with.....drawing the line between free
>> expression and content control is a delicate operation, and I do think we
>> should try to explain that in the context of ICANN's role.
>>
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>> Tatiana Tropina: we have quite a few in Europe - so I can help :P
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i love maps and their subjectivities
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Yes I am.
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Sorry I was at Jurisdiction call farz, as agreed but
>> joined right after it ended
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>> Thato: Students who in tye law, media and communication desciplines.
>> mainly civic society and includinguthe AFRISIG class. I can hear everything.
>>
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>> Tatiana Tropina: I think we can appeal to two thngs: personal achievemnt
>> (what they gain for themselves/experience) and higher goals - civil society
>> interests, etc
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>> Ayden Férdeline: I loathe to ask them because I think they are not
>> strictly civil society, but if necessary, I can ask my contacts at the Web
>> Foundation or the Alliance for Affordable Internet to either come to our
>> session or to help us attract speakers. Many of their staff are in South
>> Africa.
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>> Ayden Férdeline: But if we find ourselves needing more attendees at the
>> last-minute I can reach out, and suspect they will be helpful.
>>
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>> Thato: oanApologies for typos: activits and we will be engaging acsis, a
>> pan african civic organisation and other human rights organisations and
>> lawyers.
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>> Ayden Férdeline: Onica, I will add her
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>> Ayden Férdeline: http://webfoundation.org/about
>> /executive-team/onica-makwakwa/
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>> Ayden Férdeline: she is an NCUC member
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>> Thato: Agree with Renata
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>> Bruna Santos: yes, Renata!
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I think we can say that the grants they seek are
>> of themes close to NCUC's work
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I am adding that to the doc
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>> Ayden Férdeline: I think there is not a common African definition; how
>> privacy is conceived in SOuth Africa is very different from, say, in Egypt
>> or Tanzania.
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>> Farzaneh Badii: https://docs.google.com/docume
>> nt/d/1LNOhU4aA8nADssrwKG-x8_7nHGRjn6rdMpCS99aOaPU/edit
>>
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>> Ayden Férdeline: I love the idea of the role play
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>> Ines Hfaiedh: Good morning everyone. I just had a break now.
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: Welcome Ines
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>> Ines Hfaiedh: role play seems nice
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>> Bruna Santos: I like the role play as well !
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Role play is always is great idea
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>> Stephanie Perrin: I think it is really important that the audience
>> participates, not just listening to talking heads
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>> Ayden Férdeline: We add one more experienced member to each group of role
>> play participants
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Well I did several in my life and yes it does need lots
>> of dedication
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>> Tatiana Tropina: happy to help in preparation
>>
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>> Stephanie Perrin: We need to seed the participants with some keen folks
>> who do it well.....Renata, how many of your folks from Copenhagnen will be
>> there, they were keen
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>> Tatiana Tropina: for teh start: better to make it very focused and with a
>> *very* defined question unless you have a several days to play. The clearer
>> the better
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>> Stephanie Perrin: I think we need a registrar.....
>>
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Greg would be good.
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Steve too
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>> Ayden Férdeline: they might poison the views of our participants
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Farz LOL
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>> Ines Hfaiedh: lol
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>> Bruna Santos: haha
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>> Thato: My battery dying, will reconnect soon
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>> Stephanie Perrin: That is my fear, we need a registrrr to keep them
>> honest.  INvite michele, we can have a real argument
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>> Ayden Férdeline: we can speak to their ideas as well, but also provide
>> rebuttals to some of their arguments
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Woalking in someone's shoes allows people to better
>> defend themselves in the future (that's basically the main idea of any role
>> play)
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: NCPC will be represented by Bruna Stephanie
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: They are keen, should be a baptism of fire see if
>> they stay as inspired as in copenhagen
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>> Ayden Férdeline: 90 minutes is reasonable
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>> Tatiana Tropina: two hours at least.
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: 2h
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>> Stephanie Perrin: It would be good if our experts could mentor the folks
>> playing their role eg Shatan mentors the IP person, Michele the registrar,
>> me or Ayden the privacy advocate......we need a real turkey to mentor the
>> private secto  law enforcement
>>
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>> Tatiana Tropina: 90 min is not really enough for role play
>>
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>> Ayden Férdeline: 90 minutes, short break, then another 30 minutes?
>>
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>> Ines Hfaiedh: 90 min is fine so that the audience doesnt become passive
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i am not a fan of role play so should sit out here
>> though
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: but i think it could work
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>> Bruna Santos: Omg NCPC is smth that will follow me forever! But Im one of
>> the new and I'll be in Joburg!
>>
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>> Tatiana Tropina: it usually take some time for peope to adjust (from my
>> experience)
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>> Ayden Férdeline: has anyone else participated in ISOC's collaborative
>> leadership exchange?
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>> Tatiana Tropina: well unless you make them all just individual players -
>> because if there are stakeholder groups you have to give people time to
>> work in groups as well
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Ayden, I didn't... I led and helped with several role
>> plays in the past couple of years and they always took longer as planned
>> even with strict time management
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>> Tatiana Tropina: so I'd rather gave it two hours. And yes, last year I
>> led one in Meissen together with Avri
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>> Tatiana Tropina: break yes :)
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>> Tatiana Tropina: agree that break works very well
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: yes break to breathe
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>> Bruna Santos: break!
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>> Tatiana Tropina: Normally breaks allow to finalise the positions and
>> discuss
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i think the lightning talks dont really need
>> break, folks can go talking as much as in time permits, open space, like a
>> mad group town square
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Well it will be important to say afterwards, now forget
>> everything Shatan said,......
>>
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>> Tapani Tarvainen: Ceterum censeo Shatan obliviscata est.
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: Tapani taking too seriously a multilingual
>> internet :D
>>
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>> Ines Hfaiedh: we did something similar at the Leadership Program prior to
>> icann 58
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i like the agenda hacking bit
>>
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>> Ines Hfaiedh: thank you Ayden
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: we could do that on the lightning talks
>>
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>> Ayden Férdeline: sure, will bullet point. but it does need a strong MC!
>>
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Yes I think agenda hacknng is a great idea
>>
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>> Ayden Férdeline: agenda hacking and getting people to stand up - no one
>> wants to sit for 2 days
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: not a fan of standing up
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: but yes, many folks are doing it
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: at least, give a good reason
>>
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>> Ayden Férdeline: doesn't have to be standing up for long, i am thinking
>> just for 30 minutes for the welcome, and pre-lunch debrief
>>
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>> Bruna Santos: Having other stakeholders would be nice for providing a
>> broad view on Icann, but we could end up becoming an outreach for them! I
>> find it important, but as everyone said: we have to put some thought into
>> it!
>>
>>
>>
>> Tatiana Tropina: you also can't be sure that Greg and other will actually
>> be there on the day of outreach
>>
>>
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline: I appreciate that people do have affiliations across
>> stakeholder groups, but I see this session as an NCUC recruiting event. I
>> think we should be focused on what the NCUC is looking to get out of this
>> session. We are spending $7,000 of our resources here; what is the return
>> we want?
>>
>>
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>> Bruna Santos: Also like the Agenda Hacking moment - maybe NCUC guiding
>> people through what would be the important meetings to us
>>
>>
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>> Ayden Férdeline: Agenda hacking requires a strong MC to lead and to
>> readjust everything on the fly
>>
>>
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>> Tatiana Tropina: That's an interesting point Ayden - for me it was always
>> important to know that there are also interesting peopl on the "other side"
>>
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: i also like the "other side", "other ppl". Not
>> having them there just would raise my curiosity
>>
>>
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>> Stephanie Perrin: sounds good
>>
>>
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>> Stephanie Perrin: can we not get ICANN to cough up a cocktail?
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: tks this was very productive, we advanced a lot
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: yet there is a lot to do :D
>>
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>> Tatiana Tropina: thank Farzy and thanks a lot all
>>
>>
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>> Ines Hfaiedh: 2 role plays of 3 hours each with a lunch break in between
>>
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: would be good Stephanie since those universities
>> folks are amazing
>>
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>> Thato: just got back
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>>
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>> Ines Hfaiedh: thanks Farzaneh and everyone :)
>>
>>
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Let ee know if you need someone to recruit a GAC rep, I
>> could ask my Canadian colleagues....
>>
>>
>>
>> Thato: Okay
>>
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: I agree
>>
>>
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Ok will see if I can get someone
>>
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: GAC also raises curiosity always
>>
>>
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>> Bruna Santos: Thanks everyone!
>>
>>
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>> Renata Aquino Ribeiro: tks!
>>
>>
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>> Ayden Férdeline: thanks all
>>
>>
>>
>> Ayden Férdeline: bye
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruna Santos: bye
>>
>>
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>> Thato: yes we can get additional space if required. thanks
>>
>>
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>> Maryam Bakoshi: Thank you all for attending, this meeting is ended.
>>
>>
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>> Stephanie Perrin: Thanks Farzi, great job chairing!!
>>
>>
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>> Tapani Tarvainen: bye all
>>
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>> Many thanks,
>>
>> --
>>
>> Maryam Bakoshi
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