[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC workshop accepted at IGF

Sat Jun 17 15:27:26 CEST 2017

Good  Job all.

Congrats again Arsène.

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Le 17 juin 2017 08:49, "Arsène Tungali" <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Bill is right in most of what he says.
>
> The current proposal has 3 civil society folks listed (plus 2
> proposers) and since its a roundtable, we can have more people whose
> got substance to join the panel. And that's where the question lies:
> if we can have up to 15 people as Bill suggested, how are we going to
> select them? We only have money for 3 people, are we immediately
> considering the 3 listed speakers? I bet the answer is not because
> some of them might be able to sponsor themselves or are based in the
> region.
>
> I am confident the EC will be able to set good criterias to make this
> selection possible. I have my session approved as well (through the
> Internet Governance Caucus) so i will be there as well (and might not
> need NCUC funding).
>
> Lastly, as someone said here, there are a lot of other organizations
> supporting participants for IGF meetings. I encourage members to share
> them on this list once one has been launched so many of our members
> can apply and if selected, then the drinks Bill is offering will have
> many candidates.
>
> 2017-06-17 9:32 UTC+02:00, William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com>:
> > Hi
> >
> > +1 As James notes the money is specifically for panelists, and in
> choosing
> > panelists "merit and taking into consideration factors such as
> diversity” is
> > how we’ve always done it for a reason.  If NCUC wants to put on a good
> show
> > that impresses various parties and maybe spurs some attendees to consider
> > joining us, it should have speakers who have something specific and
> solid to
> > say about Content Regulation and Private Ordering at Internet Governance.
> > And do bear in mind that the final composition of the speakers list must
> be
> > multistakeholder (right now only 4 civil society people listed) and
> > geo/gender balanced.  Luckily, it’s a 90 minute Roundtable not a small
> > panel, so you can put up to 15 people on.  Ultimately it should be
> possible
> > to balance all these considerations.
> >
> > BTW this session aside, a lot of other workshops proposed by/involving
> NCUC
> > people were approved as well, so we’ll be well represented in Geneva.
> >
> > Being a Geneva resident who’s organized many civil society +
> get-togethers
> > during UN meets over the past 15 years, when the time comes I’d be happy
> to
> > organize a drink or dinner somewhere reasonably affordable for NCUC
> > attendees.  If there’s interest we can cross that bridge in December.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >> On Jun 17, 2017, at 00:42, Matthew Shears <matthew at intpolicy.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Also agree with Ayden.
> >>
> >> On 16/06/2017 15:55, David Cake wrote:
> >>> I agree with Ayden.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>> On 17 Jun 2017, at 2:59 am, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
> >>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>
> >>>> This is just my personal view, but I don't support random selection
> >>>> being used for the allocation of precious resources. I think the EC
> >>>> should be awarding the IGF travel slots on the basis of merit and
> taking
> >>>> into consideration factors such as diversity. But this is just my
> view;
> >>>> I trust the EC in time will inform us as to how they allocate these
> >>>> slots.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ayden Férdeline
> >>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:54 pm, Carlos Vera <cveraq at gmail.com
> >>>> <mailto:cveraq at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>> The randomly selected person, must have some task on the IGF, among
> >>>>> others he-she can be an speaker.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Carlos Vera
> >>>>> isoc Ecuador
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com
> >>>>> <mailto:icann at ferdeline.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My personal view is that it is not the NCUC's role to bring people
> to
> >>>>>> the IGF simply because they have not been before. There are
> externally
> >>>>>> funded fellowships and programmes which do just that. I think the EC
> >>>>>> should use our limited resources to bring speakers for our panel who
> >>>>>> do not otherwise have a means of getting to Geneva. And that may
> well
> >>>>>> include people who have not been to an IGF before. The EC has done
> >>>>>> that in previous years for other fora like WSIS, RightsCon, and, I
> >>>>>> suspect, even the IGF. My impression has always been that there has
> >>>>>> been a concerted effort to engage new voices in NCUC panels.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ayden Férdeline
> >>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:38 pm, Zakir Syed via Ncuc-discuss
> >>>>>> <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org <mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> +1. Sounds like a good idea. 1 out of 3. the remaining 2 can be
> >>>>>>> prioritized for speakers.
> >>>>>>> Zakir
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Carlos Vera <cveraq at gmail.com <mailto:cveraq at gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>> To: farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
> >>>>>>> <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>> Cc: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
> >>>>>>> <mailto:ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 11:19 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC workshop accepted at IGF
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would like to suggest that at least one of those 3 spaces to
> travel
> >>>>>>> to the IGF should be randomly assigned in order to allow the
> >>>>>>> participation of those who have not participated before.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Carlos Vera
> >>>>>>> Isoc Ecuador
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, farzaneh badii
> >>>>>>> <farzaneh.badii at gmail.com <mailto:farzaneh.badii at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dear NCUC members,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> One of the IGF workshop proposals was accepted to be held at IGF
> >>>>>>>> 2017.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Here is the link:
> >>>>>>>> http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2017-
> ws-67-content-regulation-and-private-ordering-at-internet-
> governance-institutions
> >>>>>>>> <http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2017-
> ws-67-content-regulation-and-private-ordering-at-internet-
> governance-institutions>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We can discuss about its further development in the future. NCUC
> has
> >>>>>>>> received three travel slots by ICANN to attend this event. The EC
> >>>>>>>> will issue a call for the travel slots in the future closer to the
> >>>>>>>> event.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Farzaneh
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