<div dir="auto">Good Job all.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Congrats again Arsène.<br><br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">Regards<br>@__f_f__<br><br><br><br><br>Computer Security | Internet of Things<br><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf">https://www.linkedin.com/in/farellf</a><br>________________________________.<br>Mail sent from my mobile phone. Excuse for brievety.</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 17 juin 2017 08:49, "Arsène Tungali" <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Bill is right in most of what he says.<br>
<br>
The current proposal has 3 civil society folks listed (plus 2<br>
proposers) and since its a roundtable, we can have more people whose<br>
got substance to join the panel. And that's where the question lies:<br>
if we can have up to 15 people as Bill suggested, how are we going to<br>
select them? We only have money for 3 people, are we immediately<br>
considering the 3 listed speakers? I bet the answer is not because<br>
some of them might be able to sponsor themselves or are based in the<br>
region.<br>
<br>
I am confident the EC will be able to set good criterias to make this<br>
selection possible. I have my session approved as well (through the<br>
Internet Governance Caucus) so i will be there as well (and might not<br>
need NCUC funding).<br>
<br>
Lastly, as someone said here, there are a lot of other organizations<br>
supporting participants for IGF meetings. I encourage members to share<br>
them on this list once one has been launched so many of our members<br>
can apply and if selected, then the drinks Bill is offering will have<br>
many candidates.<br>
<br>
2017-06-17 9:32 UTC+02:00, William Drake <<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
> Hi<br>
><br>
> +1 As James notes the money is specifically for panelists, and in choosing<br>
> panelists "merit and taking into consideration factors such as diversity” is<br>
> how we’ve always done it for a reason. If NCUC wants to put on a good show<br>
> that impresses various parties and maybe spurs some attendees to consider<br>
> joining us, it should have speakers who have something specific and solid to<br>
> say about Content Regulation and Private Ordering at Internet Governance.<br>
> And do bear in mind that the final composition of the speakers list must be<br>
> multistakeholder (right now only 4 civil society people listed) and<br>
> geo/gender balanced. Luckily, it’s a 90 minute Roundtable not a small<br>
> panel, so you can put up to 15 people on. Ultimately it should be possible<br>
> to balance all these considerations.<br>
><br>
> BTW this session aside, a lot of other workshops proposed by/involving NCUC<br>
> people were approved as well, so we’ll be well represented in Geneva.<br>
><br>
> Being a Geneva resident who’s organized many civil society + get-togethers<br>
> during UN meets over the past 15 years, when the time comes I’d be happy to<br>
> organize a drink or dinner somewhere reasonably affordable for NCUC<br>
> attendees. If there’s interest we can cross that bridge in December.<br>
><br>
> Cheers<br>
><br>
> Bill<br>
><br>
>> On Jun 17, 2017, at 00:42, Matthew Shears <<a href="mailto:matthew@intpolicy.com">matthew@intpolicy.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Also agree with Ayden.<br>
>><br>
>> On 16/06/2017 15:55, David Cake wrote:<br>
>>> I agree with Ayden.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Sent from my iPad<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 17 Jun 2017, at 2:59 am, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> Hi Carlos,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> This is just my personal view, but I don't support random selection<br>
>>>> being used for the allocation of precious resources. I think the EC<br>
>>>> should be awarding the IGF travel slots on the basis of merit and taking<br>
>>>> into consideration factors such as diversity. But this is just my view;<br>
>>>> I trust the EC in time will inform us as to how they allocate these<br>
>>>> slots.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Best wishes,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Ayden Férdeline<br>
>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:54 pm, Carlos Vera <<a href="mailto:cveraq@gmail.com">cveraq@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cveraq@gmail.com">cveraq@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>> The randomly selected person, must have some task on the IGF, among<br>
>>>>> others he-she can be an speaker.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Carlos Vera<br>
>>>>> isoc Ecuador<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a><br>
>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Hi,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> My personal view is that it is not the NCUC's role to bring people to<br>
>>>>>> the IGF simply because they have not been before. There are externally<br>
>>>>>> funded fellowships and programmes which do just that. I think the EC<br>
>>>>>> should use our limited resources to bring speakers for our panel who<br>
>>>>>> do not otherwise have a means of getting to Geneva. And that may well<br>
>>>>>> include people who have not been to an IGF before. The EC has done<br>
>>>>>> that in previous years for other fora like WSIS, RightsCon, and, I<br>
>>>>>> suspect, even the IGF. My impression has always been that there has<br>
>>>>>> been a concerted effort to engage new voices in NCUC panels.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Best wishes,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Ayden Férdeline<br>
>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:38 pm, Zakir Syed via Ncuc-discuss<br>
>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.<wbr>ncuc.org</a>>><br>
>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>> +1. Sounds like a good idea. 1 out of 3. the remaining 2 can be<br>
>>>>>>> prioritized for speakers.<br>
>>>>>>> Zakir<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> From: Carlos Vera <<a href="mailto:cveraq@gmail.com">cveraq@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cveraq@gmail.com">cveraq@gmail.com</a>>><br>
>>>>>>> To: farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>><br>
>>>>>>> Cc: NCUC-discuss <<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org</a><br>
>>>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncuc-discuss@lists.ncuc.org">ncuc-discuss@lists.<wbr>ncuc.org</a>>><br>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 11:19 PM<br>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC workshop accepted at IGF<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I would like to suggest that at least one of those 3 spaces to travel<br>
>>>>>>> to the IGF should be randomly assigned in order to allow the<br>
>>>>>>> participation of those who have not participated before.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Carlos Vera<br>
>>>>>>> Isoc Ecuador<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, farzaneh badii<br>
>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Dear NCUC members,<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> One of the IGF workshop proposals was accepted to be held at IGF<br>
>>>>>>>> 2017.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Here is the link:<br>
>>>>>>>> <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2017-ws-67-content-regulation-and-private-ordering-at-internet-governance-institutions" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/<wbr>multilingual/content/igf-2017-<wbr>ws-67-content-regulation-and-<wbr>private-ordering-at-internet-<wbr>governance-institutions</a><br>
>>>>>>>> <<a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2017-ws-67-content-regulation-and-private-ordering-at-internet-governance-institutions" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.intgovforum.org/<wbr>multilingual/content/igf-2017-<wbr>ws-67-content-regulation-and-<wbr>private-ordering-at-internet-<wbr>governance-institutions</a>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> We can discuss about its further development in the future. NCUC has<br>
>>>>>>>> received three travel slots by ICANN to attend this event. The EC<br>
>>>>>>>> will issue a call for the travel slots in the future closer to the<br>
>>>>>>>> event.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Farzaneh<br>
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>>>>>>>> <a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br>
>>>>>>>> <<a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-<wbr>bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-<wbr>discuss</a>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
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>>>>>>> <a href="http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.ncuc.org/cgi-bin/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/ncuc-discuss</a><br>
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>>>>>>><br>
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>>><br>
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