[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC workshop accepted at IGF

Sat Jun 17 11:21:36 CEST 2017

Thanks Ayden for the clarification.

2017-06-17 11:08 UTC+02:00, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com>:
> Hi Arsène,
>
> I am glad to hear that your IGC workshop proposal was accepted;
> congratulations!
>
> Just a quick reaction: no, this is not the final list of speakers. When I
> submitted the NCUC's workshop proposals to the IGF Secretariat back in
> April, we could only include confirmed panellists. From memory we had
> approached a few people from other stakeholder groups and they were
> interested but not yet able to confirm their participation. Now that the
> proposal has been accepted, it's time to widen the net and to find a
> suitable array of speakers.
>
> As for travel slots, Farzaneh said in her email to this list yesterday, "The
> EC will issue a call for the travel slots in the future closer to the
> event," so I trust the process here will be balanced and fair.
>
> Best wishes, Ayden
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC workshop accepted at IGF
> Local Time: June 17, 2017 9:48 AM
> UTC Time: June 17, 2017 8:48 AM
> From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com
> To: William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com>
> NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>
> Bill is right in most of what he says.
>
> The current proposal has 3 civil society folks listed (plus 2
> proposers) and since its a roundtable, we can have more people whose
> got substance to join the panel. And that"s where the question lies:
> if we can have up to 15 people as Bill suggested, how are we going to
> select them? We only have money for 3 people, are we immediately
> considering the 3 listed speakers? I bet the answer is not because
> some of them might be able to sponsor themselves or are based in the
> region.
>
> I am confident the EC will be able to set good criterias to make this
> selection possible. I have my session approved as well (through the
> Internet Governance Caucus) so i will be there as well (and might not
> need NCUC funding).
>
> Lastly, as someone said here, there are a lot of other organizations
> supporting participants for IGF meetings. I encourage members to share
> them on this list once one has been launched so many of our members
> can apply and if selected, then the drinks Bill is offering will have
> many candidates.
>
> 2017-06-17 9:32 UTC+02:00, William Drake :
> > Hi
> >
> > +1 As James notes the money is specifically for panelists, and in
> choosing
> > panelists "merit and taking into consideration factors such as
> diversity” is
> > how we’ve always done it for a reason. If NCUC wants to put on a good
> show
> > that impresses various parties and maybe spurs some attendees to
> consider
> > joining us, it should have speakers who have something specific and
> solid to
> > say about Content Regulation and Private Ordering at Internet
> Governance.
> > And do bear in mind that the final composition of the speakers list
> must be
> > multistakeholder (right now only 4 civil society people listed) and
> > geo/gender balanced. Luckily, it’s a 90 minute Roundtable not a small
> > panel, so you can put up to 15 people on. Ultimately it should be
> possible
> > to balance all these considerations.
> >
> > BTW this session aside, a lot of other workshops proposed by/involving
> NCUC
> > people were approved as well, so we’ll be well represented in Geneva.
> >
> > Being a Geneva resident who’s organized many civil society +
> get-togethers
> > during UN meets over the past 15 years, when the time comes I’d be
> happy to
> > organize a drink or dinner somewhere reasonably affordable for NCUC
> > attendees. If there’s interest we can cross that bridge in December.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >> On Jun 17, 2017, at 00:42, Matthew Shears wrote:
> >>
> >> Also agree with Ayden.
> >>
> >> On 16/06/2017 15:55, David Cake wrote:
> >>> I agree with Ayden.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> >>> On 17 Jun 2017, at 2:59 am, Ayden Férdeline >> >
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>
> >>>> This is just my personal view, but I don"t support random
> selection
> >>>> being used for the allocation of precious resources. I
> think the EC
> >>>> should be awarding the IGF travel slots on the basis of
> merit and taking
> >>>> into consideration factors such as diversity. But this is
> just my view;
> >>>> I trust the EC in time will inform us as to how they
> allocate these
> >>>> slots.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ayden Férdeline
> >>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:54 pm, Carlos Vera >>>
> > wrote:
> >>>>> The randomly selected person, must have some task on
> the IGF, among
> >>>>> others he-she can be an speaker.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Carlos Vera
> >>>>> isoc Ecuador
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Ayden Férdeline
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> My personal view is that it is not the NCUC"s role
> to bring people to
> >>>>>> the IGF simply because they have not been before.
> There are externally
> >>>>>> funded fellowships and programmes which do just
> that. I think the EC
> >>>>>> should use our limited resources to bring speakers
> for our panel who
> >>>>>> do not otherwise have a means of getting to Geneva.
> And that may well
> >>>>>> include people who have not been to an IGF before.
> The EC has done
> >>>>>> that in previous years for other fora like WSIS,
> RightsCon, and, I
> >>>>>> suspect, even the IGF. My impression has always
> been that there has
> >>>>>> been a concerted effort to engage new voices in
> NCUC panels.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ayden Férdeline
> >>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:38 pm, Zakir Syed via
> Ncuc-discuss
> >>>>>> >
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>> +1. Sounds like a good idea. 1 out of 3. the
> remaining 2 can be
> >>>>>>> prioritized for speakers.
> >>>>>>> Zakir
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From: Carlos Vera >
> >>>>>>> To: farzaneh badii >>>>>>
> >
> >>>>>>> Cc: NCUC-discuss >>>>>> >
> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 11:19 PM
> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC workshop
> accepted at IGF
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would like to suggest that at least one of
> those 3 spaces to travel
> >>>>>>> to the IGF should be randomly assigned in order
> to allow the
> >>>>>>> participation of those who have not
> participated before.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Carlos Vera
> >>>>>>> Isoc Ecuador
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, farzaneh badii
> >>>>>>> > wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Dear NCUC members,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> One of the IGF workshop proposals was
> accepted to be held at IGF
> >>>>>>>> 2017.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Here is the link:
> >>>>>>>>
> http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2017-ws-67-content-regulation-and-private-ordering-at-internet-governance-institutions
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> We can discuss about its further
> development in the future. NCUC has
> >>>>>>>> received three travel slots by ICANN to
> attend this event. The EC
> >>>>>>>> will issue a call for the travel slots in
> the future closer to the
> >>>>>>>> event.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Farzaneh
> >>>>>>>>
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