[NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC workshop accepted at IGF

Sat Jun 17 11:08:05 CEST 2017

Hi Arsène,

I am glad to hear that your IGC workshop proposal was accepted; congratulations!

Just a quick reaction: no, this is not the final list of speakers. When I submitted the NCUC's workshop proposals to the IGF Secretariat back in April, we could only include confirmed panellists. From memory we had approached a few people from other stakeholder groups and they were interested but not yet able to confirm their participation. Now that the proposal has been accepted, it's time to widen the net and to find a suitable array of speakers.

As for travel slots, Farzaneh said in her email to this list yesterday, "The EC will issue a call for the travel slots in the future closer to the event," so I trust the process here will be balanced and fair.

Best wishes, Ayden

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Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC workshop accepted at IGF
Local Time: June 17, 2017 9:48 AM
UTC Time: June 17, 2017 8:48 AM
From: arsenebaguma at gmail.com
To: William Drake <wjdrake at gmail.com>
NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>

Bill is right in most of what he says.

The current proposal has 3 civil society folks listed (plus 2
proposers) and since its a roundtable, we can have more people whose
got substance to join the panel. And that"s where the question lies:
if we can have up to 15 people as Bill suggested, how are we going to
select them? We only have money for 3 people, are we immediately
considering the 3 listed speakers? I bet the answer is not because
some of them might be able to sponsor themselves or are based in the
region.

I am confident the EC will be able to set good criterias to make this
selection possible. I have my session approved as well (through the
Internet Governance Caucus) so i will be there as well (and might not
need NCUC funding).

Lastly, as someone said here, there are a lot of other organizations
supporting participants for IGF meetings. I encourage members to share
them on this list once one has been launched so many of our members
can apply and if selected, then the drinks Bill is offering will have
many candidates.

2017-06-17 9:32 UTC+02:00, William Drake :
> Hi
>
> +1 As James notes the money is specifically for panelists, and in choosing
> panelists "merit and taking into consideration factors such as diversity” is
> how we’ve always done it for a reason. If NCUC wants to put on a good show
> that impresses various parties and maybe spurs some attendees to consider
> joining us, it should have speakers who have something specific and solid to
> say about Content Regulation and Private Ordering at Internet Governance.
> And do bear in mind that the final composition of the speakers list must be
> multistakeholder (right now only 4 civil society people listed) and
> geo/gender balanced. Luckily, it’s a 90 minute Roundtable not a small
> panel, so you can put up to 15 people on. Ultimately it should be possible
> to balance all these considerations.
>
> BTW this session aside, a lot of other workshops proposed by/involving NCUC
> people were approved as well, so we’ll be well represented in Geneva.
>
> Being a Geneva resident who’s organized many civil society + get-togethers
> during UN meets over the past 15 years, when the time comes I’d be happy to
> organize a drink or dinner somewhere reasonably affordable for NCUC
> attendees. If there’s interest we can cross that bridge in December.
>
> Cheers
>
> Bill
>
>> On Jun 17, 2017, at 00:42, Matthew Shears wrote:
>>
>> Also agree with Ayden.
>>
>> On 16/06/2017 15:55, David Cake wrote:
>>> I agree with Ayden.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 17 Jun 2017, at 2:59 am, Ayden Férdeline >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Carlos,
>>>>
>>>> This is just my personal view, but I don"t support random selection
>>>> being used for the allocation of precious resources. I think the EC
>>>> should be awarding the IGF travel slots on the basis of merit and taking
>>>> into consideration factors such as diversity. But this is just my view;
>>>> I trust the EC in time will inform us as to how they allocate these
>>>> slots.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:54 pm, Carlos Vera >>> > wrote:
>>>>> The randomly selected person, must have some task on the IGF, among
>>>>> others he-she can be an speaker.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carlos Vera
>>>>> isoc Ecuador
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Ayden Férdeline >>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My personal view is that it is not the NCUC"s role to bring people to
>>>>>> the IGF simply because they have not been before. There are externally
>>>>>> funded fellowships and programmes which do just that. I think the EC
>>>>>> should use our limited resources to bring speakers for our panel who
>>>>>> do not otherwise have a means of getting to Geneva. And that may well
>>>>>> include people who have not been to an IGF before. The EC has done
>>>>>> that in previous years for other fora like WSIS, RightsCon, and, I
>>>>>> suspect, even the IGF. My impression has always been that there has
>>>>>> been a concerted effort to engage new voices in NCUC panels.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ayden Férdeline
>>>>>> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 7:38 pm, Zakir Syed via Ncuc-discuss
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> +1. Sounds like a good idea. 1 out of 3. the remaining 2 can be
>>>>>>> prioritized for speakers.
>>>>>>> Zakir
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Carlos Vera >
>>>>>>> To: farzaneh badii >>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Cc: NCUC-discuss >>>>>> >
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 11:19 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] NCUC workshop accepted at IGF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to suggest that at least one of those 3 spaces to travel
>>>>>>> to the IGF should be randomly assigned in order to allow the
>>>>>>> participation of those who have not participated before.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carlos Vera
>>>>>>> Isoc Ecuador
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 16, 2017, at 12:44 PM, farzaneh badii
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear NCUC members,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of the IGF workshop proposals was accepted to be held at IGF
>>>>>>>> 2017.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here is the link:
>>>>>>>> http://www.intgovforum.org/multilingual/content/igf-2017-ws-67-content-regulation-and-private-ordering-at-internet-governance-institutions
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can discuss about its further development in the future. NCUC has
>>>>>>>> received three travel slots by ICANN to attend this event. The EC
>>>>>>>> will issue a call for the travel slots in the future closer to the
>>>>>>>> event.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Farzaneh
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