[NCUC-DISCUSS] Ncuc-discuss Digest, Vol 810, Issue 1

Tue Jan 31 14:33:28 CET 2017

All-

Greetings from the U.S., where things are strange and precarious right
now.  As a NCUC member, I ask that skilled members please contemplate the
possibility of a disruption of Internet within the U.S. (intentional or
not), and advise on strategies to connect through other means should it
become necessary, particularly to de-escalate a crisis.  Not
alarmist...just prudent.

Thank you.

On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:00 AM, <ncuc-discuss-request at lists.ncuc.org>
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>    1. ICANN, TRAVEL, TRUMP (Edward Morris)
>    2. Re: ICANN, TRAVEL, TRUMP (Ayden Férdeline)
>    3. Re: ICANN, TRAVEL, TRUMP (Norbert Klein)
>    4. Re: ICANN, TRAVEL, TRUMP (Seun Ojedeji)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Edward Morris <egmorris1 at toast.net>
> To: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 17:40:23 -0500
> Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] ICANN, TRAVEL, TRUMP
> With our Chair unable to safely attend the NCPH Intercessional meeting in
> Reykjavik in two weeks time due to the American governments travel
> restrictions ( http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2017-
> January/003567.html ),  Milton Mueller's take on "Internet Governance And
> Trump's Assault on International Travel ( http://www.
> internetgovernance.org/2017/01/30/internet-governance-and-
> trumps-assault-on-international-travel/ ) is of particular relevance
> to NCUC members. Thank you, Milton, for writing it.
>
> We are in the early stages of this new administration. We still do not
> know what the policy of this new American government will be towards ICANN
> and our work. As an American corporation,  there are concerns immediate and
> distant, operational and more theoretical, as to the impact of
> this Republican government on ICANN. "America First" and "One World, One
> Internet" just may be two slogans that can not be easily reconciled.
>
> As we wait and watch,  as a Constituency we need to be vigilante and
> supportive of all our members. With the unstable nature of the United
> States government,  I'd suggest the Board may have acted a bit too quickly
> in approving Puerto Rico as a meeting site for ICANN 61. Some community
> groups, including some in the noncommercial world,  are already considering
> a boycott of ICANN 60 for other reasons.
>
> Regardless of what happens with both of these Meetings, I'd encourage our
> NCUC leadership to demand that ICANN devote more resources to remote
> participation. ICANN sponsored regional hubs may be part of a solution,
> modern technology certainly is. Adobe Connect simply is no longer state of
> the art. Although we need to be careful with the bandwidth limitations of
> our members, we can and need to develop state of the art, ICANN specific
> remote participation tools. It's one way to proactively adapt to the new
> world environment.
>
> Thanks, again, Milton. More challenges for us to meet as we fight to
> preserve noncommercial values such as free speech, privacy, due process and
> fair use on the global internet.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
> Ed Morris
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com>
> To: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:10:44 -0500
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] ICANN, TRAVEL, TRUMP
> Thanks for raising awareness of this issue, Ed.
>
> Our chair has been quoted in an article published on *Vice* today which
> outlines how this disruption has impacted the participation of some members
> of the ICANN community: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/icann-trump-
> travel-ban-internet
>
> A year ago I would have agreed with you that Adobe Connect is not a
> suitable platform for remote participation. I still don't think it is
> perfect. However, after being subjected to many substantially inferior
> platforms over the past year, it might be a case of it being the best of a
> bad bunch of tools. Yes, let's encourage ICANN to explore other options,
> but keep an open mind to the idea that our current tool mightn't be too bad
> after all.
>
> We should re-assess the viability of Puerto Rico hosting an ICANN meeting
> in March 2018 in the months ahead, but for now, I think it is too soon for
> anyone to make the call that the meeting must be relocated to another
> location. I think it is legitimate for ICANN to perform a risk assessment
> and to move meetings where there is a credible threat to the delegates. But
> it *might* be a disproportionate response to move a meeting because not
> all delegates will qualify for a visa to enter the host country. I realise
> how upsetting this situation must be for those who are impacted and unable
> to travel to a location. But moving meetings to a different country isn't
> necessarily a solution. This is one reason why I support the geographic
> rotation of meetings, to *try* to share the burden of visa obstacles.
>
> That being said, I sometimes worry we spend far too much time discussing
> travel, travel arrangements, and meeting locations, at the detriment of
> policy work. (And to be very clear, I am not directing this comment at you,
> Ed, but at the wider ICANN community.)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden Férdeline
> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] ICANN, TRAVEL, TRUMP
> Local Time: 30 January 2017 10:40 PM
> UTC Time: 30 January 2017 22:40
> From: egmorris1 at toast.net
> To: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>
> With our Chair unable to safely attend the NCPH Intercessional meeting in
> Reykjavik in two weeks time due to the American governments travel
> restrictions ( http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2017-
> January/003567.html ),  Milton Mueller's take on "Internet Governance And
> Trump's Assault on International Travel ( http://www.
> internetgovernance.org/2017/01/30/internet-governance-and-
> trumps-assault-on-international-travel/ ) is of particular relevance
> to NCUC members. Thank you, Milton, for writing it.
>
> We are in the early stages of this new administration. We still do not
> know what the policy of this new American government will be towards ICANN
> and our work. As an American corporation,  there are concerns immediate and
> distant, operational and more theoretical, as to the impact of
> this Republican government on ICANN. "America First" and "One World, One
> Internet" just may be two slogans that can not be easily reconciled.
>
> As we wait and watch,  as a Constituency we need to be vigilante and
> supportive of all our members. With the unstable nature of the United
> States government,  I'd suggest the Board may have acted a bit too quickly
> in approving Puerto Rico as a meeting site for ICANN 61. Some community
> groups, including some in the noncommercial world,  are already considering
> a boycott of ICANN 60 for other reasons.
>
> Regardless of what happens with both of these Meetings, I'd encourage our
> NCUC leadership to demand that ICANN devote more resources to remote
> participation. ICANN sponsored regional hubs may be part of a solution,
> modern technology certainly is. Adobe Connect simply is no longer state of
> the art. Although we need to be careful with the bandwidth limitations of
> our members, we can and need to develop state of the art, ICANN specific
> remote participation tools. It's one way to proactively adapt to the new
> world environment.
>
> Thanks, again, Milton. More challenges for us to meet as we fight to
> preserve noncommercial values such as free speech, privacy, due process and
> fair use on the global internet.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
> Ed Morris
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Norbert Klein <nhklein at gmx.net>
> To: ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org
> Cc:
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:41:54 +0700
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] ICANN, TRAVEL, TRUMP
>
> Hi Friends,
>
> I disagree - living in a sometimes affected country.
>
> On 31.1.2017 7:10 AM, Ayden Férdeline wrote:
>
> . But it *might* be a disproportionate response to move a meeting because
> not all delegates will qualify for a visa to enter the host country. I
> realise how upsetting this situation must be for those who are impacted and
> unable to travel to a location. But moving meetings to a different country
> isn't necessarily a solution.
>
> So if this is not a solution - what is one?
>
> Or is excluding some members some time a solution? (For example for 90
> days - I use this number, considering the exclusion of some people with
> valid US visa to travel to the USA at present.)
>
> That being said, I sometimes worry we spend far too much time discussing
> travel, travel arrangements, and meeting locations, at the detriment of
> policy work. (And to be very clear, I am not directing this comment at you,
> Ed, but at the wider ICANN community.)
>
> Yes and no - I agree that policy work is very important. Once there would
> be an agreement how to select or exclude some travel related issues (and
> not discuss it again and again without a clear perspective and decision),
> there would be more time available for policy.
>
> Norbert Klein
> in Cambodia
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> To: "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com>
> Cc: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 06:45:06 +0100
> Subject: Re: [NCUC-DISCUSS] ICANN, TRAVEL, TRUMP
> Inline
>
> Sent from my LG G4
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On Jan 31, 2017 1:11 AM, "Ayden Férdeline" <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>
> .
>
> We should re-assess the viability of Puerto Rico hosting an ICANN meeting
> in March 2018 in the months ahead, but for now, I think it is too soon for
> anyone to make the call that the meeting must be relocated to another
> location. I think it is legitimate for ICANN to perform a risk assessment
> and to move meetings where there is a credible threat to the delegates. But
> it *might* be a disproportionate response to move a meeting because not
> all delegates will qualify for a visa to enter the host country. I realise
> how upsetting this situation must be for those who are impacted and unable
> to travel to a location. But moving meetings to a different country isn't
> necessarily a solution. This is one reason why I support the geographic
> rotation of meetings, to *try* to share the burden of visa obstacles.
>
>
> SO: Well said, anyone who remember the history behind Puerto Rico will
> understand why the current happenings cannot/should not warrant a change in
> the venue.
>
> Regards
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ayden Férdeline
> linkedin.com/in/ferdeline <http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline>
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [NCUC-DISCUSS] ICANN, TRAVEL, TRUMP
> Local Time: 30 January 2017 10:40 PM
> UTC Time: 30 January 2017 22:40
> From: egmorris1 at toast.net
> To: NCUC-discuss <ncuc-discuss at lists.ncuc.org>
>
> With our Chair unable to safely attend the NCPH Intercessional meeting in
> Reykjavik in two weeks time due to the American governments travel
> restrictions ( http://lists.ncuc.org/pipermail/ncuc-ec/2017-January/
> 003567.html ),  Milton Mueller's take on "Internet Governance And Trump's
> Assault on International Travel ( http://www.internetgovernanc
> e.org/2017/01/30/internet-governance-and-trumps-assault-
> on-international-travel/ ) is of particular relevance to NCUC members.
> Thank you, Milton, for writing it.
>
> We are in the early stages of this new administration. We still do not
> know what the policy of this new American government will be towards ICANN
> and our work. As an American corporation,  there are concerns immediate and
> distant, operational and more theoretical, as to the impact of
> this Republican government on ICANN. "America First" and "One World, One
> Internet" just may be two slogans that can not be easily reconciled.
>
> As we wait and watch,  as a Constituency we need to be vigilante and
> supportive of all our members. With the unstable nature of the United
> States government,  I'd suggest the Board may have acted a bit too quickly
> in approving Puerto Rico as a meeting site for ICANN 61. Some community
> groups, including some in the noncommercial world,  are already considering
> a boycott of ICANN 60 for other reasons.
>
> Regardless of what happens with both of these Meetings, I'd encourage our
> NCUC leadership to demand that ICANN devote more resources to remote
> participation. ICANN sponsored regional hubs may be part of a solution,
> modern technology certainly is. Adobe Connect simply is no longer state of
> the art. Although we need to be careful with the bandwidth limitations of
> our members, we can and need to develop state of the art, ICANN specific
> remote participation tools. It's one way to proactively adapt to the new
> world environment.
>
> Thanks, again, Milton. More challenges for us to meet as we fight to
> preserve noncommercial values such as free speech, privacy, due process and
> fair use on the global internet.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
>
> Ed Morris
>
>
>
>
>
>
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